VW7.8 and Store

I want to start using VW7.8 with Store. Which free database is recommended? How can I get started?

Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh

PostgreSQL or SQLite. I'd probably start with SQLite for small teams.

-Boris

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I want to start using VW7.8 with Store. Which free database is
recommended?
How can I get started?

Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh

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I would recommend to use the PostgreSQL even for the individual developer.  It is light enough to be run on the small laptop, and it is real  database - with all the database tools and interfaces so you can use for many other things as well. For example,  you can share your repository with other people over the network, if you want.  However there is a drawback: you have to be comfortable with the concept of the Data Base administration which would be required with the PostgreSQL.

With the SQLite you need only one DLL file and a data file on your file system which SQLite creates for you.

Speaking from experience - as I do use both of those.

You can also use free version of Oracle ( Oracle Database Express Edition).

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I want to start using VW7.8 with Store. Which free database is recommended?
How can I get started?

Thanks,
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I have several parcels.
When I load CADSM-Start.pcl, all the other parcels are loaded as perquisites and I am done loading everything.

Now, I publish each of my packages to Store.
Starting in a virgin image:
When I load CADSM-Start from Store the other parcels are not loaded and Smalltalk complains about missing bindings.
How can I get prerequisites loaded automatically from Store?

Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh

Dear Koh,
    if you go to the prerequisites tab of your packages and right-click
on their prerequisites under the 'Current' heading, you will see the
'Resolve as' and 'Applicability' submenus.  From your description, I
guess the Applicability of your prereqs is set to 'Parcel only' where
you want 'Either'.

Applicability > 'Parcel only' would be the correct setting in 7.8 if
these parcels' prereqs were 'deployment only' in 7.7.  (If, instead,
they had deployment and development prereqs set, that would suggest an
error in their conversion to the new prereqs system, which would be
surprising if they were loaded in delivered 7.7.1 or 7.8 IIRC, but by
all means advise if loading these parcels in 7.7 or earlier shows
deployment and development prereqs but loading them in released 7.8 does
not show Applicability > Either.)

HTH
             Yours faithfully
                   Niall Ross


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I am loading 7.5 parcels into 7.8.

Thanks,
Aik-Siong

Again. I load CADSM-Start.pcl and it loads all prerequisites, both Cincom's and mine.

I then changed the prerequisites applicabilities in CADSM-Start package as follows:
All Cincom packages I leave as (Applicable to Parcel only).
All my packages I chose Either.

Then I republish CADSM-Start into Store.

Starting with a virgin image. I load CADSM-Start from Store. This time VW7.8 finds the Store packages (CADSM...) but does not find the Cincom packages from the parcels directory. How do I get the Cincom packages load from the parcels directory automatically? Must I put them in Store too?

Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh

Possible things that come to mind:

-- You don't have the pre-reqs set to look for parcels or either (as per Niall's earlier response)

or

-- Are you sure that you have the $VISUALWORKS environment properly set up?  If you open up the Parcel Manager, can you load parcels from the distribution?

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Dear Koh,

1) I am loading 7.5 parcels into 7.8.

My question is:  do these parcels have delpoyment and development
prereqs, or only development prereqs, in 7.5 ?

>All Cincom packages I leave as (Applicable to Parcel only).
>  
>
OK, so you are explicitly saying to the prereq mechanism, "Only a parcel
needs these Cincom prereqs.  If I load from Store, then I do not need
these prereqs;  _don't_ try to load them."

If instead you had set 'Applicability' to 'Either' and 'Resolve As' to
say 'Parcel only' then

 - it would always try to load the prereqs, whether it loaded from store
or parcel

 - it would only accept a parcel for these prereqs;  if it could not
find a parcel, it would not then look in Store

So, IIUC, the system is doing what you are telling it to with these
prereqs.  It sounds like you want
    Applicability: Either
    Resolve As: Either
so that

    - it will always attempt to load its prereqs, whether it loads from
store or from parcel

    - it will look for a parcel prereq, but will then look in Store if
it cannot see a parcel (that order of searching can be changed from the
Store settings, or you can say Resolve as: )

If my diagnosis is correct, and you were taking 'Applicability' to mean
'Resolve As', by all means say what term that would convey the meaning
better to you (which may or may not convey it better generally, but it's
all useful input).  The idea is "These prereqs apply to a parcel" or
"These prereqs apply to a package".  One could instead say "These
prereqs are needed by a parcel" and "These prereqs are needed by to a
package", and so offer submenus
    Needed by:    Parcel only, Store only, both
    Resolve as:    Parcel only, Store only, either
instead of
    Applicability:    Parcel only, Store only, either
    Resolve as:    Parcel only, Store only, either
Just a thought.

             HTH
                   Niall Ross

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