[VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs
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[VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs
 
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Hello there,
I have an interesting problem to resolve. I have an application which needs to be translated to the multiple languages. I did load the "I18n" package which help to find and fix the irregularity in the messages, like malformed messages, key collisions, etc. The application has a plenty Dialog interactions like Dialog warn:, request, etc. I can find all the senders or #warn: for example and replace strings from 'Warning' to the message form: #Warning<<#dialogs>>'Warning'. The problem I have is the UI Specs. Are there any tools available to help me identify where the translations are missing from Button labels, labels, Menu Items, Window labels, etc. Any pointers are greatly appreciated. Sincerely -- Mark Pirogovsky ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
Re: [VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs
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Mark,
We have done a lot in this area. In the next version of VisualWorks 7.10 there will be a new package called Internationalizer which has many more features including what you have asked for. I do not know whether you have access to VisualWorks Developer Program, if yes, I recommend looking at it. If not you might consider joining http://www.parcplace.net/. Otherwise you have to wait. When a windowSpec is outdated a trick can help: open it in the UI Painter and write it back. Furthermore there is a package called L10n (Localization) which has also helpful tools once you have the app internationalized. If you need help, we can provide services to you, as this is our profession. Please do not hesitate to contact me. Currently I am at STIC though, thus slow responding to emails during the day time here in Arizona. Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Mark Pirogovsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 14:52 An: [hidden email] Betreff: [vwnc] [VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs Hello there, I have an interesting problem to resolve. I have an application which needs to be translated to the multiple languages. I did load the "I18n" package which help to find and fix the irregularity in the messages, like malformed messages, key collisions, etc. The application has a plenty Dialog interactions like Dialog warn:, request, etc. I can find all the senders or #warn: for example and replace strings from 'Warning' to the message form: #Warning<<#dialogs>>'Warning'. The problem I have is the UI Specs. Are there any tools available to help me identify where the translations are missing from Button labels, labels, Menu Items, Window labels, etc. Any pointers are greatly appreciated. Sincerely -- Mark Pirogovsky ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
Re: [VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs
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In reply to this post by Mark Pirogovsky-3
Hi, Mark,
I don't have a good automated way to do this, but something we do for our application is automatically generate a "Mirrored English" translation. We take our English message catalog and generate a new catalog with every translation reversed from the original English (taking care to preserve substitution macros like <1s>, <2p>, etc). Then we load up that translation and navigate around our UI. That tells us pretty quickly where we've missed some strings.
Randy
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Mark Pirogovsky <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello there, Randy Coulman Email: [hidden email]
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Re: [VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs
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In reply to this post by Mark Pirogovsky-3
Mark,
Use this to search the code for a string pattern: | mc matchString | mc := MethodCollector new. matchString := '*SearchForThis*'. mc browseSelect: (mc methodsSelect: [:m| matchString match: (m getSource ifNil: ['']) ignoreCase: true ]). Execute it (not inspect); it will open a code browser when it finishes. This kind of search is slow, but it finds what I look for. Another approach is to sample and record the execution context as translations are searched for. If code like (#Warning<<#dialogs>>'Warning') is looking for a translation then modify some of that code to log translation attempts when you visit a window. You'd typically want to configure your logging to have an expiration timestamp so that you can set it to run for the next 30 seconds while you open and click through a window. Paul Baumann -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark Pirogovsky Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 08:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: [vwnc] [VWNC] VW7.9 How to find all string that need to be translated in the UI specs Hello there, I have an interesting problem to resolve. I have an application which needs to be translated to the multiple languages. I did load the "I18n" package which help to find and fix the irregularity in the messages, like malformed messages, key collisions, etc. The application has a plenty Dialog interactions like Dialog warn:, request, etc. I can find all the senders or #warn: for example and replace strings from 'Warning' to the message form: #Warning<<#dialogs>>'Warning'. The problem I have is the UI Specs. Are there any tools available to help me identify where the translations are missing from Button labels, labels, Menu Items, Window labels, etc. Any pointers are greatly appreciated. Sincerely -- Mark Pirogovsky ____________________________________________________________ NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc This message may contain confidential information and is intended for specific recipients unless explicitly noted otherwise. If you have reason to believe you are not an intended recipient of this message, please delete it and notify the sender. This message may not represent the opinion of IntercontinentalExchange, Inc. (ICE), its subsidiaries or affiliates, and does not constitute a contract or guarantee. Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and the recipient of this message is expected to provide safeguards from viruses and pursue alternate means of communication where privacy or a binding message is desired. _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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