Very sad day for the world
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Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened about the future of human kind. Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. Hernán |
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Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news.
To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot expect much. I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it would be terrible in addition. Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact this is a war. When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids listen music they will go to hell. I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that can destroy the oldest libraries because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours from algeria, marocco. Now we pay the price and it will continue. Stef Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > Hernán > |
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Le 14/11/2015 06:08, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit :
> Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. Thanks for your concern; it is very much appreciated :( Thierry |
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My mind stopped for a while when I heard what happened. The way in which it happened made me inevitably wonder about the kindness of human kind. It’s a sad feeling even from afar and I cannot imagine what people that are closer to the event might feel.
I wish you all strength to go through this and wisdom to go beyond it. Doru > On Nov 14, 2015, at 6:08 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > Hernán > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Obvious things are difficult to teach." |
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What a sad news from Paris.
Lots of love and strength, and wisdom in finding the right course of action in reacting to these terrible actions. Stephan |
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These guys are clinging to a model of the past instead of making the necessary changes to deal with the modernity transition challenge. China transitioned, India transitioned, South Asia transitioned. They aren't. France has been directly involved in Lybia, Syria, and Mali to fight they archaic model. France is all they hate. And all we love. Freedom, fun, curiosity, questioning, science, progress. We should have crushed them in Syria already. Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJm4C_XZtA for an indepth geostrategic view (french). I am sad. But at the same time my resolve is stronger than ever. We need to stand for our values. Phil On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: My mind stopped for a while when I heard what happened. The way in which it happened made me inevitably wonder about the kindness of human kind. It’s a sad feeling even from afar and I cannot imagine what people that are closer to the event might feel. |
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Thanks doru.
When you watch the videos they are really shocking. It is hard to believe that they shot people in the cafe. Now I heard a really interesting point from a french reporter: he said that daesh cannot destroy french, europe or democratie but we can destroy ourselves if as a country we react badly (like getting anti muslim, getting a bad society, closing our borders, voting for the ultra right) Because Marine LePen does not represent France and they got really bad solution. Stef Le 14/11/15 14:18, Tudor Girba a écrit : > My mind stopped for a while when I heard what happened. The way in which it happened made me inevitably wonder about the kindness of human kind. It’s a sad feeling even from afar and I cannot imagine what people that are closer to the event might feel. > > I wish you all strength to go through this and wisdom to go beyond it. > > Doru > > >> On Nov 14, 2015, at 6:08 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened about the future of human kind. >> >> Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. >> >> Hernán >> > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Obvious things are difficult to teach." > > > > > |
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Thanks for the link it was really interesting.
Stef Le 14/11/15 20:01, [hidden email] a
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Starve and beat a dog and he will bite.
Feed and train him and he will be your friend. It is a matter of trust and I hope that my french friends will not loose their trust in humanity. My condolences to all that are personally affected by this terrible act. Sebastian On 2015-11-14 2:26 PM, stepharo wrote:
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Indeed, This is a very sad day. I sincerly sympathize with people of France. In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much more unfortunately, may you be preserved) But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I am quite sure it will. I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if nothing is done to stop them. Abdelghani Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 From: stepharo <[hidden email]> To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>, Any question about pharo is welcome <[hidden email]> Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Hi guys I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably from these fanatics ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a rock concert and restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as birds. I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do not do anything I doubt it will not expand. And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in fact. Democracy and our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we have to react. Stef ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 From: stepharo <[hidden email]> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot expect much. I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it would be terrible in addition. Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact this is a war. When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids listen music they will go to hell. I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that can destroy the oldest libraries because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours from algeria, marocco. Now we pay the price and it will continue. Stef Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > about the future of human kind. > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > Hern?n > |
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Hi,
In Colombia we had very violent and bad times at the 80's and that bad press endures until today, even despite of being a country full of wonderful people and places. And yes, I think that we need to make something. It's curious because programming tries to remain abstract but programmers are concrete people with countries, families, ties. I'm trying an alternative approach that binds programming to the reality by not starting with the sad/uninteresting "hello world examples", but with making sense of a complex human world by using data. Usually that means scraping data, think of it as a political construction instead of a "neutral" one and a critical approaches to problems. I'm not saying this is some kind of "solution", but another place to start thinking in how our everyday programming language and environment can help to build democracy and understanding by education, instead of being co-opted by the language of war. With solidarity, Offray On 15/11/15 04:23, abdelghani ALIDRA
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It is so very sad. Sad that it was done and sad that it can be done.
There is no real way to stop them or it would end our open
societies. They must decide not to kill innocent people. The only
ones who can get them to decide that is complete, global and total
condemnation from the Ummah. Unfortunately, there are high numbers
of Imams who issue Fatwas in support. And the majority of the Ummah
are too scared to object. For instance, a top Jordanian Salafi
Sheikh stated it was permissible to kill Israeli women and children.
Oh, really?
If we can't trust Imams to promote non-violence and the Ummah is required to step up, it all rests on the Mu'minoon picking up weapons against these Quranic terrorists and actively sending these Munafiqoon to Jahannam. Peace to Paris, Robert On 11/15/2015 04:23 AM, abdelghani
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pour la transition et NON aux terroristes ! On 14 November 2015 at 15:01, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Once I read a quote but it wasn't until today I researched it was written by Sébastien Châteillon, a french theologian and humanist: May we never forget those words."To kill a man to uphold an idea, is not upholding an idea. It s killing a man." 2015-11-15 14:00 GMT-03:00 Robert Shiplett <[hidden email]>:
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I more or less agree with you Robert. It partially relies on Muslims to fight against those terrorists. This is exactly what we did in Algeria in the 90's and today this is still happening in Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But unfortunately they are moving their battlefield to the rest of the world. Imams are not infallible, but the common sense of people is and I believe it should be trusted. Abdelghani Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:19:43 -0500 From: Robert Withers <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" It is so very sad. Sad that it was done and sad that it can be done. There is no real way to stop them or it would end our open societies. They must decide not to kill innocent people. The only ones who can get them to decide that is complete, global and total condemnation from the Ummah. Unfortunately, there are high numbers of Imams who issue Fatwas in support. And the majority of the Ummah are too scared to object. For instance, a top Jordanian Salafi Sheikh stated it was permissible to kill Israeli women and children. Oh, really? If we can't trust Imams to promote non-violence and the Ummah is required to step up, it all rests on the Mu'minoon picking up weapons against these Quranic terrorists and actively sending these Munafiqoon to Jahannam. Peace to Paris, Robert On 11/15/2015 04:23 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Indeed, This is a very sad day. > I sincerly sympathize with people of France. > In Algeria, we have known such barbarian actions in the 90's (and much > more unfortunately, may you be preserved) > But today we got rid of it. And I hope France will do too. In fact, I > am quite sure it will. > > I finaly would like to say that those sick people do not represent us. > They are stupid ignorants and we muslims, have been their first > victims in Algeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan ... and > unfortunately, as Stef said, their evil will expand everywhere if > nothing is done to stop them. > > > > Abdelghani > > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:13:32 +0100 > From: stepharo <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>, Any question > about pharo is welcome <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Democracy attacked... > Message-ID: <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi guys > > I just want to let you that France got attacked by kamizazes probably > from these fanatics > ruining syria and we are touched. 120 people killed: they attacked a > rock concert and > restaurants in the street in Paris. They killed people randomly and as > birds. > I hope that such attacks will not happen in your country but if we do > not do anything > I doubt it will not expand. > > And sadly this is just the beginning because this is a terrible war in > fact. Democracy and > our model are threatened and I hope our countries will realize that we > have to react. > > Stef > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:21:26 +0100 > From: stepharo <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Very sad day for the world > Message-ID: <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Thanks I just woke up and heard these terrible news. > To me when a human believes that another one is not worth more than a > dog and we can kill it for free, we cannot > expect much. > > I really hope that people will not vote for extreme right because it > would be terrible in addition. > Now I hope that our goverment will have a really strong reaction. > And the problem with democracy is that it is mild in general but in fact > this is a war. > When you imagine that in France an imam is able to say that if kids > listen music they will go to hell. > > > I'm really happy that France got in africa fighting against people that > can destroy the oldest libraries > because else we would have even more trouble because we are at two hours > from algeria, marocco. > Now we pay the price and it will continue. > > Stef > > Le 14/11/15 06:08, Hern?n Morales Durand a ?crit : > > Cannot believe what happened in Paris. I am really sad and frightened > > about the future of human kind. > > > > Love and strength to the people in Paris and all of France. > > > > Hern?n > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/attachments/20151115/ed6c8396/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org ------------------------------ End of Pharo-users Digest, Vol 31, Issue 39 ******************************************* |
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