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Those of you using VW are probably aware that Cincom has a release candidate for their 8.0 product.
We are wondering how aggressively our customers plan to move to 8.0. If you are willing to share your thoughts with us, feel free to respond to this thread or privately via email. Thanks, Richard Sargent |
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I would think eventually -- but likely a year down the road
On 2014-08-28 2:36 PM, Richard Sargent wrote: > Those of you using VW are probably aware that Cincom has a release candidate > for their 8.0 product. > > We are wondering how aggressively our customers plan to move to 8.0. If you > are willing to share your thoughts with us, feel free to respond to this > thread or privately via email. > > > Thanks, > Richard Sargent > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VisualWorks-8-0-release-candidate-tp4775284.html > Sent from the Gemstone/S mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk -- Dennis Smith Cherniak Software Development Corporation Phone 416.798.7948 ext 314 Email [hidden email] _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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Hi Richard,
Thanks for asking. We will stick with VW 7.9.x for at least another year, hopefully longer. Our goal is to move to GemStone 3.2.2 using an up to date Red Hat Enterprise Linux version on new hardware soon, which is much more important for us. Regards, Alex -----Original Message----- From: GemStone-Smalltalk [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Richard Sargent Sent: Donnerstag, 28. August 2014 20:36 To: [hidden email] Subject: [GemStone-Smalltalk] VisualWorks 8.0 release candidate Those of you using VW are probably aware that Cincom has a release candidate for their 8.0 product. We are wondering how aggressively our customers plan to move to 8.0. If you are willing to share your thoughts with us, feel free to respond to this thread or privately via email. Thanks, Richard Sargent -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VisualWorks-8-0-release-candidate-tp4775284.html Sent from the Gemstone/S mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS reserves the right to retain all messages. Messages are protected and accessed only in legally justified cases. _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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Richard, Any news on when VW 8.0 will be supported? There a number of dev tool improvements we are looking forward to using. Thanks, Bob Nemec On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:36 PM, Richard Sargent <[hidden email]> wrote: Those of you using VW are probably aware that Cincom has a release candidate for their 8.0 product. We are wondering how aggressively our customers plan to move to 8.0. If you are willing to share your thoughts with us, feel free to respond to this thread or privately via email. Thanks, Richard Sargent -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VisualWorks-8-0-release-candidate-tp4775284.html Sent from the Gemstone/S mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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Gee wiz -- they must have had at least 20min to look at it :)
On 2014-12-11 11:03 AM, via
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We've been looking at their release candidates since I posted the original message in this thread. :-)
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Bob, we've been looking at it for a while. There are substantial changes in it affecting GBS. One of the things I want to see added to our new website is a road map for each product. Our current schedule has us supporting VW 8.x in the latter part of next year (2015). I'd be interested in hearing more about your plans for VW8.0 deployment, and what schedule constraints you have. You're our second customer to show *any* interest in VW8.0.
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Richard, We use VW as the Seaside server, with no domain code, so we don't care about the UI changes. Here is what we're interested in is... (as copied from their web site)
Bob On Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:22 PM, Richard Sargent via GemStone-Smalltalk <[hidden email]> wrote: Gemstone/S mailing list wrote > Richard, > Any news on when VW 8.0 will be supported?There a number of dev tool > improvements we are looking forward to using. > Thanks,Bob Nemec Bob, we've been looking at it for a while. There are substantial changes in it affecting GBS. One of the things I want to see added to our new website is a road map for each product. Our current schedule has us supporting VW 8.x in the latter part of next year (2015). I'd be interested in hearing more about your plans for VW8.0 deployment, and what schedule constraints you have. You're our second customer to show *any* interest in VW8.0. > On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:36 PM, Richard Sargent < > richard.sargent@ > > wrote: > > > Those of you using VW are probably aware that Cincom has a release > candidate > for their 8.0 product. > > We are wondering how aggressively our customers plan to move to 8.0. If > you > are willing to share your thoughts with us, feel free to respond to this > thread or privately via email. > > > Thanks, > Richard Sargent > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/VisualWorks-8-0-release-candidate-tp4775284.html > Sent from the Gemstone/S mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk > > > > _______________________________________________ > GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/VisualWorks-8-0-release-candidate-tp4775284p4795517.html Sent from the Gemstone/S mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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On 12/11/2014 09:35 AM, via GemStone-Smalltalk wrote:
> Richard, > We use VW as the Seaside server, with no domain code, so we don't care > about the UI changes. > Here is what we're interested in is... (as copied from their web site) > > * Text2 and SourceCode Editor 2 - anything would be better than the > current editor > * Major improvements to WSDL 2.0 / SOAP 1.2 to handle updated > protocols - we're looking at a number of third party integrations > using web services; the less hassle with that the better > * Store II improvements from Foundation - Store is painfully slow for > us; we're hoping this helps > * Comparison Tool and Merge Engine > * Garbage Collection Performance Improvements > Hi Bob, This is an odd list. I did find the page where most of these were listed as VW 8.0 enhancements. However, many of them do not show up in the 8.0 release notes. Text2 and the SourceCode Editor 2 are definitely new in 8.0. Most of the rest appear to be from a post in 2010 about VW 7.7.1: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/08/internationalization-project-manager/ except the GC performance work, which was done primarily in VW7.8. So some wires are crossed somewhere. Maybe they're my wires, and if you've got better information I'd love to hear it, but right now it seems that if you're running VW7.10.1, you've got most of your list already, and are fully supported from a GBS standpoint. That said, if you want to try out VW8.0 we want to help you do that. If you're willing to test out some pre-alpha GBS versions, we expect to have something that works with VW8.0 in early 2015, and if you open an HR with support and request the that, we'll get it to you as soon as it's ready. Regards, -Martin _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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Martin, There is no rush on our part. As per Lourens' post: I can work on patching our 7.10.1 image. If GBS was going to support VW 8.0 soon I would not bother. Thanks, Bob On Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:01 PM, Martin McClure <[hidden email]> wrote: On 12/11/2014 09:35 AM, via GemStone-Smalltalk wrote: > Richard, > We use VW as the Seaside server, with no domain code, so we don't care > about the UI changes. > Here is what we're interested in is... (as copied from their web site) > > * Text2 and SourceCode Editor 2 - anything would be better than the > current editor > * Major improvements to WSDL 2.0 / SOAP 1.2 to handle updated > protocols - we're looking at a number of third party integrations > using web services; the less hassle with that the better > * Store II improvements from Foundation - Store is painfully slow for > us; we're hoping this helps > * Comparison Tool and Merge Engine > * Garbage Collection Performance Improvements > Hi Bob, This is an odd list. I did find the page where most of these were listed as VW 8.0 enhancements. However, many of them do not show up in the 8.0 release notes. Text2 and the SourceCode Editor 2 are definitely new in 8.0. Most of the rest appear to be from a post in 2010 about VW 7.7.1: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/08/internationalization-project-manager/ except the GC performance work, which was done primarily in VW7.8. So some wires are crossed somewhere. Maybe they're my wires, and if you've got better information I'd love to hear it, but right now it seems that if you're running VW7.10.1, you've got most of your list already, and are fully supported from a GBS standpoint. That said, if you want to try out VW8.0 we want to help you do that. If you're willing to test out some pre-alpha GBS versions, we expect to have something that works with VW8.0 in early 2015, and if you open an HR with support and request the that, we'll get it to you as soon as it's ready. Regards, -Martin _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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On 12/12/2014 06:38 AM, via GemStone-Smalltalk wrote:
> Martin, > There is no rush on our part. As per Lourens' post: I can work on > patching our 7.10.1 image. > If GBS was going to support VW 8.0 soon I would not bother. > Hi Bob, Thanks for the feedback. I don't seem to have Lourens' post -- did it perhaps go to just you and not the list? Please keep us informed on how your experiments go. We're very interested in tracking customer demand for VW 8.0 use with GemStone. Regards, -Martin _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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Any news on VW 8.0 GBS support? Noticed that VW 8.0.1 was announced. On Friday, December 12, 2014 3:23 PM, Martin McClure <[hidden email]> wrote: On 12/12/2014 06:38 AM, via GemStone-Smalltalk wrote: > Martin, > There is no rush on our part. As per Lourens' post: I can work on > patching our 7.10.1 image. > If GBS was going to support VW 8.0 soon I would not bother. > Hi Bob, Thanks for the feedback. I don't seem to have Lourens' post -- did it perhaps go to just you and not the list? Please keep us informed on how your experiments go. We're very interested in tracking customer demand for VW 8.0 use with GemStone. Regards, -Martin _______________________________________________ GemStone-Smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gemtalksystems.com/mailman/listinfo/gemstone-smalltalk |
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As Martin said before: "That said, if you want to try out VW8.0 we want to help you do that. If you're willing to test out some pre-alpha GBS versions, we expect to have something that works with VW8.0 in early 2015, and if you open an HR with support and request the that, we'll get it to you as soon as it's ready." At this point, we do not have a release date for GBS supporting VW 8.0.
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