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WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Ron Teitelbaum
Hi,

I see that cellspacing and cellpadding were deprecated.  What is the
preferred method for setting these attributes on a table now?

Are we supposed to do:

self attributes at: 'cellspacing' put: anInteger

or something else?


Thanks,

Ron Teitelbaum

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RE: WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
They were never deprecated by W3C AFAIK, so removing them from Seaside
would be a bit premature.

Disclaimer: I hadn't actually looked at any of the recent code.

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Subject: [Seaside] WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Hi,

I see that cellspacing and cellpadding were deprecated.  What is the
preferred method for setting these attributes on a table now?

Are we supposed to do:

self attributes at: 'cellspacing' put: anInteger

or something else?


Thanks,

Ron Teitelbaum

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RE: WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Boris,

I was looking at the CSS replacements for them and it appears they are not
well supported or consistent between browsers.  The suggestion I saw was to
stick with cellspacing and cellpadding on html instead.

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Popov [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:08 PM
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> discussion.
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> They were never deprecated by W3C AFAIK, so removing them from Seaside
> would be a bit premature.
>
> Disclaimer: I hadn't actually looked at any of the recent code.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Boris
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> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:02 AM
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> Subject: [Seaside] WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?
>
> Hi,
>
> I see that cellspacing and cellpadding were deprecated.  What is the
> preferred method for setting these attributes on a table now?
>
> Are we supposed to do:
>
> self attributes at: 'cellspacing' put: anInteger
>
> or something else?
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
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Re: WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Philippe Marschall
In reply to this post by Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
2006/12/29, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>:
> They were never deprecated by W3C AFAIK, so removing them from Seaside
> would be a bit premature.

IMHO you're right
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/attributes.html
(same goes for border)
Lukas can you explain the rationale behind this?

Cheers
Philippe

> Disclaimer: I hadn't actually looked at any of the recent code.
>
> Cheers,
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> -Boris
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Teitelbaum
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: 'The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.'
> Subject: [Seaside] WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?
>
> Hi,
>
> I see that cellspacing and cellpadding were deprecated.  What is the
> preferred method for setting these attributes on a table now?
>
> Are we supposed to do:
>
> self attributes at: 'cellspacing' put: anInteger
>
> or something else?
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> Thanks,
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
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Re: WATable cellspacing and cellpadding deprecated?

Lukas Renggli
> > They were never deprecated by W3C AFAIK, so removing them from Seaside
> > would be a bit premature.
>
> IMHO you're right
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/index/attributes.html
> (same goes for border)
> Lukas can you explain the rationale behind this?

Seaside2.7a1-lr.145 removes the deprecation of #cellpadding: and
#cellspacing:, even though I still think it is bad design to use them
(separation of logic and design). #border: is still deprecated as the
same effect can be easily and much more generic achieved using CSS.

Btw, calling deprecated code does not mean that this method is going
to disappear in 2.7, this will maybe happen in 2.8. It might also be
that these methods will be moved into a separate package later on (if
somebody requests that). What we are trying to do is to reduce the
code to relevant methods and to avoid cluttering up the interfaces
with more and more stuff nobody really needs. Of course this is
difficult, since we don't have a worldwide-sender browser ;-)
Deprecation gives the possibility to discuss these issues.

Cheers,
Lukas

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How to print on paper with seaside

Kaspu
Hello List,
I would like to see some example code of printing on Paper with a seaside application. For example something like an invoice of a Sushi-Store-Order or similar. Any pointers to code-snipets or whole seaside-apps with this feature are apreciated,  preferable Squeak / Windows.

Thank You for your time
Rudolf

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RE: How to print on paper with seaside

Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
There shouldn't be any code to it unless you want to render a completely different looking page for printing. Instead you can simply provide a separate stylesheet for print media to your pages, see the following links to get started:

http://meyerweb.com/eric/articles/webrev/200001.html
http://alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/

Hope this helps,

-Boris

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Hello List,
I would like to see some example code of printing on Paper with a seaside application. For example something like an invoice of a Sushi-Store-Order or similar. Any pointers to code-snipets or whole seaside-apps with this feature are apreciated,  preferable Squeak / Windows.

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