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Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Alexandre Bergel
Hi!

I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
Maybe a page accessible from
        http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
        or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
will be good.

If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
Opinion?

Cheers,
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Stéphane Ducasse
good idea.
May be pharo in research :)

> Hi!
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> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
> There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
> Maybe a page accessible from
> http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
> or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
> will be good.
>
> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
> Opinion?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

laurent laffont
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
Maybe a page accessible from
       http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
       or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
will be good.

I like the idea. Why not http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?

Laurent
 

If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
Opinion?

Cheers,
Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

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+1

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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Alexandre Bergel
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Everybody agrees on http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research 
?

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:

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> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
> There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
> Maybe a page accessible from
>        http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>        or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
> will be good.
>
> I like the idea. Why not http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>
> Laurent
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> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
> Opinion?
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> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

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I like it.

2010/9/21 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:

> Hi!
>
> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
> There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
> Maybe a page accessible from
>        http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>        or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
> will be good.
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> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
> Opinion?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Mariano Martinez Peck
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+1

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Everybody agrees on http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research
?

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:

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> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
> There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
> Maybe a page accessible from
>        http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>        or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
> will be good.
>
> I like the idea. Why not http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>
> Laurent
>
>
> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
> Opinion?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

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I liked  http://pharo-project.org/about/research better, but I guess that's just me :)
To me, it belongs more with mission description and success stories than tutorials and screencasts.

Cheers,
Henry

On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:13 35PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Everybody agrees on http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research 
> ?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
>> There were some announcements on [hidden email], but it is not really useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
>> Maybe a page accessible from
>>       http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>>       or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
>> will be good.
>>
>> I like the idea. Why not http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>>
>> Laurent
>>
>>
>> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
>> Opinion?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Stéphane Ducasse
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Yes I would prefer to see that as success stories than documentation

On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote:

> I liked  http://pharo-project.org/about/research better, but I guess that's just me :)
> To me, it belongs more with mission description and success stories than tutorials and screencasts.
>
> Cheers,
> Henry
>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:13 35PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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>> Everybody agrees on http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research 
>> ?
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Alexandre Bergel
> Yes I would prefer to see that as success stories than documentation

+1

The final word is: http://pharo-project.org/about/research 

Alexandre


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> On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote:
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>> I liked  http://pharo-project.org/about/research better, but I guess that's just me :)
>> To me, it belongs more with mission description and success stories than tutorials and screencasts.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Henry
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:13 35PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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>>> Everybody agrees on http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research 
>>> ?
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>>> C
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Janko Mivšek
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Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like
http://research.world.st?

I think our community is too small to divide it even further and
research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have
thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have
all Smalltalk research website too!

Janko

On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Everybody agrees on
>     http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research
>     ?
>
>     Cheers,
>     Alexandre
>
>
>     On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:
>
>     >
>     > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>     > Hi!
>     >
>     > I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
>     > There were some announcements on
>     [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>, but it is not really
>     useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
>     > Maybe a page accessible from
>     >        http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>     >        or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
>     > will be good.
>     >
>     > I like the idea. Why not
>     http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>     >
>     > Laurent
>     >
>     >
>     > If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
>     > Opinion?
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     > Alexandre

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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Alexandre Bergel
Good point, but we have to start somewhere.

Alexandre



On 22 Sep 2010, at 13:30, Janko Mivšek wrote:

> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like
> http://research.world.st?
>
> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and
> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have
> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have
> all Smalltalk research website too!
>
> Janko
>
> On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>    Everybody agrees on
>>    http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research
>>    ?
>>
>>    Cheers,
>>    Alexandre
>>
>>
>>    On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>    <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
>>> There were some announcements on
>>    [hidden email]
>>    <mailto:[hidden email]>, but it is not really
>>    useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
>>> Maybe a page accessible from
>>>       http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>>>       or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
>>> will be good.
>>>
>>> I like the idea. Why not
>>    http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>>>
>>> Laurent
>>>
>>>
>>> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
>>> Opinion?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Janko Mivšek
On 22. 09. 2010 19:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> Good point, but we have to start somewhere.

Setup of such website is a matter of minutes, asking Geert Claes to add
it in world.st DNS is a matter of another few minutes. Very small effort
comparing to gains a whole community get.

Janko

>
> Alexandre
>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2010, at 13:30, Janko Mivšek wrote:
>
>> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like
>> http://research.world.st?
>>
>> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and
>> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have
>> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have
>> all Smalltalk research website too!
>>
>> Janko
>>
>> On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Everybody agrees on
>>>    http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research
>>>    ?
>>>
>>>    Cheers,
>>>    Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>>    <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo.
>>>> There were some announcements on
>>>    [hidden email]
>>>    <mailto:[hidden email]>, but it is not really
>>>    useful for me to keep track of what's going on.
>>>> Maybe a page accessible from
>>>>       http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories
>>>>       or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/
>>>> will be good.
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea. Why not
>>>    http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ?
>>>>
>>>> Laurent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort.
>>>> Opinion?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Marcus Denker-4
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On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:

> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like
> http://research.world.st?
>
> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and
> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have
> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have
> all Smalltalk research website too!

But with that reasoning: Why have a pharo website at all?

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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Janko Mivšek

On 22. 09. 2010 20:06, Marcus Denker wrote:

>
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:
>
>> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like
>> http://research.world.st?
>>
>> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and
>> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have
>> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have
>> all Smalltalk research website too!

> But with that reasoning: Why have a pharo website at all?

Because I'm prety sure that researchers working on Pharo want to
influence other Smalltalks with your results as well.  Posting results
on Smalltalk-wide website will surely have much more impact than posting
only on Pharo website. Not to mention that researchers using other
Smalltalks will have a chance to inspire Pharoers as well.

Best regards
Janko

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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

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How about putting the papers on both sites ;-)

Sean
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Stéphane Ducasse
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guys

all my papers are using Smalltalk (visualworks, squeak mainly so far) as a research vehicule. You can use them to do marketing around smalltalk because there are good papers in prestigious venues. Please do not have the time.

Now pharo has the right to mention the papers using pharo on the pharo web site.

Stef

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> How about putting the papers on both sites ;-)
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Re: Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

Alexandre Bergel
Makes sense. However, I do not want to emphasize on the past with old papers.
I am now working on the webpage

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 25 Sep 2010, at 03:10, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> guys
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> all my papers are using Smalltalk (visualworks, squeak mainly so far) as a research vehicule. You can use them to do marketing around smalltalk because there are good papers in prestigious venues. Please do not have the time.
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> Now pharo has the right to mention the papers using pharo on the pharo web site.
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> Stef
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> On Sep 25, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
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>> How about putting the papers on both sites ;-)
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>> Sean
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