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What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

abergel
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert
Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

abergel
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert
No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

abergel
Ok, let us know!

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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

Alexandre
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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Tudor Girba-2
Hi,

Indeed, we are in a bit of a situation here. The examples of Roassal could go in a separate package as they are specific to GTInspector Core (the one that does not depend on Roassal). In Pharo 4, GT Core is part of the default image, so this won't be an issue anymore, but it is an issue for Pharo 3.

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:16 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

Alexandre
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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

Volkert
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

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Sorry, found the changes .... ;-)

But the other point is still valid ;-)

Am 22.11.2014 um 17:16 schrieb [hidden email]:
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

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Understand. But what is now the best way to load Roassal2 with all its depending packages
into a Pharo 3.0 Image?

BW,
Volkert

Am 22.11.2014 um 17:28 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi,

Indeed, we are in a bit of a situation here. The examples of Roassal could go in a separate package as they are specific to GTInspector Core (the one that does not depend on Roassal). In Pharo 4, GT Core is part of the default image, so this won't be an issue anymore, but it is an issue for Pharo 3.

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:16 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

Alexandre
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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Tudor Girba-2
You could load the complete GToolkit:

Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
configuration;
loadDevelopment

Not ideal, but it should work. You can also take the ready made image:

Or you can simply take the Moose image:

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:34 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Understand. But what is now the best way to load Roassal2 with all its depending packages
into a Pharo 3.0 Image?

BW,
Volkert

Am 22.11.2014 um 17:28 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi,

Indeed, we are in a bit of a situation here. The examples of Roassal could go in a separate package as they are specific to GTInspector Core (the one that does not depend on Roassal). In Pharo 4, GT Core is part of the default image, so this won't be an issue anymore, but it is an issue for Pharo 3.

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:16 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

Alexandre
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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert
Ok, loading the GToolkit is what i am doing.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 22.11.2014 um 17:45 schrieb Tudor Girba:
You could load the complete GToolkit:

Gofer new 
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
configuration;
loadDevelopment

Not ideal, but it should work. You can also take the ready made image:

Or you can simply take the Moose image:

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:34 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Understand. But what is now the best way to load Roassal2 with all its depending packages
into a Pharo 3.0 Image?

BW,
Volkert

Am 22.11.2014 um 17:28 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi,

Indeed, we are in a bit of a situation here. The examples of Roassal could go in a separate package as they are specific to GTInspector Core (the one that does not depend on Roassal). In Pharo 4, GT Core is part of the default image, so this won't be an issue anymore, but it is an issue for Pharo 3.

Cheers,
Doru



On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:16 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Alexandre, i updated Roassal2, but see no changes.

I also started with a fresh Pharo 3.0 Image.

Maybe i made a mistake. See:

Loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 did not resolve all dependencies to packages needed
for running Roassal2 in Pharo 3.0. I think it is Glamour, GTPlayground, GTInspector, ... But i am
not sure, what package to load here, so i tried to load the whole GTookit. Everything works, but
the GToolkit load Roassal2 by itself (??)

So my question: What package do need to load for a working Roassal2?

May be, the dependencies should be handled in ConfigurationOfRoassal2.

BW,
Volkert


Am 20.11.2014 um 20:55 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Ok, let us know!

Alexandre
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On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:24 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No worries. I will have a look tomorrow and give you feedback.

Thank you,
Volkert

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Please, report things that are missing. This is very important :-)

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:55 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Alexandre, any hints/advice for me?

BW,
Volkert

Am 17.11.2014 um 23:06 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Tomorrow I will provide a detailed answer.

Alexandre
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On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:14 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear All,

i am using heavily Mondrian (ROMondrianViewBuilder) from Roassal1 in my Tool/Project. Today  i tried
to migrate my
work to Roassal2 and found out, that the Interface of RTMondrianViewBuilder has
changed a lot.

Is there a list what has changed/what was removed/what are the alternatives/...?

Some examples

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd'.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.        

         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].

Anther question:

How can i change the line thickness of a Mondrian Node? I find the default size is to thick.

BW,

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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

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Dear Alexandre

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


Works fine.

         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.


view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.
=> MessageNotUnderstood: RTBox>>text:

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.
Make sense, but this is an issue for me.  I need a way to give a node a title.
Here an example how it currently looks like




         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Works, but the Menu looks not very appetizing. ;-)

BW,
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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

abergel
Hi Volkert,

I worked on the shape and title issue.
Update Roassal and try the following:

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b := RTMondrianViewBuilder new.
b shape rectangle withTextAbove.
b nodes: RTShape withAllSubclasses forEach: [:cls | 
b shape rectangle color: Color white; size: #numberOfLinesOfCode.
b nodes: cls methods. b gridLayout ].
b flowLayout.
b build.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I have the impression this will fulfill your need. Let me know how it goes!

Cheers,
Alexandre

On Nov 22, 2014, at 2:05 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear Alexandre

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


Works fine.


         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.


view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.
=> MessageNotUnderstood: RTBox>>text:

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.
Make sense, but this is an issue for me.  I need a way to give a node a title.
Here an example how it currently looks like

<Mail Attachment.png>



         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Works, but the Menu looks not very appetizing. ;-)

BW,
Volkert

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Re: What has changed in Mondrian/Roassal2.

Volkert
Nice. I will check it.

Many thanks,
Volkert


Am 25.11.2014 um 00:48 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

I worked on the shape and title issue.
Update Roassal and try the following:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
b := RTMondrianViewBuilder new.
b shape rectangle withTextAbove.
b nodes: RTShape withAllSubclasses forEach: [:cls | 
b shape rectangle color: Color white; size: #numberOfLinesOfCode.
b nodes: cls methods. b gridLayout ].
b flowLayout.
b build.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
<img moz-do-not-send="true" apple-inline="yes" id="379E3ABF-29B1-4382-97D4-A4365A9EE32B" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="imap://volkert%40nivoba%2Ede@imap.strato.de:993/fetch%3EUID%3E.Moose%3E3031?header=quotebody/;section=1.2.2?part=1.1.2.2&amp;filename=Screen%20Shot%202014-11-23%20at%205.11.29%20PM.png" class="" height="280" width="399">
I have the impression this will fulfill your need. Let me know how it goes!

Cheers,
Alexandre

On Nov 22, 2014, at 2:05 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear Alexandre

Am 19.11.2014 um 18:58 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
Hi Volkert,

Sorry for replying late. This is a rather busy time for me.
As you have noticed, Roassal2 is not fully compatible with Roassal1. However, we are here to help!

         view := ROMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


This now works (you need to update Roassal2):

view := RTMondrianViewBuilder titled: 'asdasd’.


Works fine.


         view shape rectangle withText: #shortName; textVerticalPadding: -10; fontSize: 6.         

Unfortunately, this is not supported yet. 
What you can do is 
view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.


view shape rectangle width: 50; text: #shortName; fontSize: 6.
=> MessageNotUnderstood: RTBox>>text:

No text padding for now. Is it okay however? The idea is to go incrementally.
Make sense, but this is an issue for me.  I need a way to give a node a title.
Here an example how it currently looks like

<Mail Attachment.png>



         view addMenu: 'Zoom in' callBack: [ :stack | … ].


you can do:

view view addMenu: ‘Zoom in’ callback: [ “do your stuff” ]

Works, but the Menu looks not very appetizing. ;-)

BW,
Volkert

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