What is the memory limit for a VAST application in Windows XP ?

What is the memory limit for a VAST application ?

For VisualWorks 3.0 GB on Windows 7 64 bit as per the link...
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/runarj/blogView?searchCategory=Smalltalk

Thanks!

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This has already been discussed here in this forum. You may have a look at:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/va-smalltalk/6EY2U74UB48

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Thanks Marten.

A few more questions though... my application makes it to 2.5 GB before crashing.

The error I get is...
1. VC++ Runtime Error: This application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way.
followed by...
2. Smalltalk Virtual Machine has encountered a problem and needs to close.

Do we get these error messages when we exceed the 2 GB limit ? Or this could be something else.

Thanks!

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I have not used /3GB parameter.

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1. You do not actually have all of 2GB or 3GB available to your application -- some of the space is taken by DLLs, slack space, etc.  I recommend using the Microsoft VMMap tool (www.sysinternals.com) to look at the memory allocation of your process.
2. You may get different symptoms for running out of memory depending on where it happens:
• A failed memory allocation call from the image will usually result in a debugger (or walkback log at runtime)
• A failed memory allocation call from the VM will usually result in the application ending with Primitive Error 12 (Not Enough Memory)
• A failed memory allocation call from a DLL called from Smalltalk could result in the 2 error messages that you see (but other things could also)

John O'Keefe 

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Thanks for guidance, I was able to narrow down on the problem and found that it is not related to Virtual Memory.

However, I am having having a tough time to find out the ROOT CAUSE though :(. It seems that it might be related to Smalltalk or Windows since the DLL's being called are not from my application...

Here is dump from the tool dumpchk.exe
MINIDUMP_HEADER:
Version         A793 (5128)
NumberOfStreams 8
Flags 6

Streams:
Stream 0: type ThreadListStream (3), size 00000124, RVA 000000D0
Stream 1: type ModuleListStream (4), size 00002740, RVA 000001F4
  93 modules
  RVA 000001F8, 00400000 - 00418000: 'C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\guiapp.exe'
  RVA 00000264, 7c900000 - 7c9b2000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ntdll.dll'
  RVA 000002D0, 7c800000 - 7c8f6000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\kernel32.dll'
  RVA 0000033C, 00420000 - 004c2000: 'C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\esvm40.dll'
  RVA 000003A8, 00340000 - 0034e000: 'C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\esae40.dll'
  RVA 00000414, 7e410000 - 7e4a1000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\user32.dll'
  RVA 00000480, 77f10000 - 77f59000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\gdi32.dll'
  RVA 000004EC, 78000000 - 780e1000: 'C:\WINXP\System32\DgApi.dll'
  RVA 00000558, 76bf0000 - 76bfb000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\psapi.dll'
  RVA 000005C4, 71ab0000 - 71ac7000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ws2_32.dll'
  RVA 00000630, 77dd0000 - 77e6b000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\advapi32.dll'
  RVA 0000069C, 77e70000 - 77f03000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\rpcrt4.dll'
  RVA 00000708, 77fe0000 - 77ff1000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\secur32.dll'
  RVA 00000774, 77c10000 - 77c68000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\msvcrt.dll'
  RVA 000007E0, 71aa0000 - 71aa8000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ws2help.dll'
  RVA 0000084C, 71b20000 - 71b32000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\mpr.dll'
  RVA 000008B8, 77c00000 - 77c08000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\version.dll'
  RVA 00000924, 7c9c0000 - 7d1d7000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\shell32.dll'
  RVA 00000990, 77f60000 - 77fd6000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\shlwapi.dll'
  RVA 000009FC, 774e0000 - 7761e000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ole32.dll'
  RVA 00000A68, 77120000 - 771ab000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\oleaut32.dll'
  RVA 00000AD4, 769c0000 - 76a74000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\userenv.dll'
  RVA 00000B40, 771b0000 - 7725a000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\wininet.dll'
  RVA 00000BAC, 77a80000 - 77b15000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\crypt32.dll'
  RVA 00000C18, 77b20000 - 77b32000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\msasn1.dll'
  RVA 00000C84, 773d0000 - 774d3000: 'C:\WINXP\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.6028_x-ww_61e65202\comctl32.dll'
  RVA 00000CF0, 5d090000 - 5d12a000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\comctl32.dll'
  RVA 00000D5C, 50d20000 - 50d54000: 'c:\Temp\NC491SP5\i386\libs32\calwin32.dll'
  RVA 00000DC8, 50d00000 - 50d16000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\clnwin32.dll'
  RVA 00000E34, 50df0000 - 50e15000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\locwin32.dll'
  RVA 00000EA0, 50db0000 - 50de5000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ncpwin32.dll'
  RVA 00000F0C, 60000000 - 6002c000: 'C:\Program Files\DGAgent\plugins\09D849B6-32D3-4A40-85EE-6B84BA29E35B\ae_mailsensor_plugin.dll'
  RVA 00000F78, 00b80000 - 00bff000: 'C:\Program Files\DGAgent\plugins\09D849B6-32D3-4A40-85EE-6B84BA29E35B\ame_outlooksensor.dll'
  RVA 00000FE4, 61e00000 - 61e1f000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\mapi32.dll'
  RVA 00001050, 38ee0000 - 391b1000: 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office XP\Office12\OLMAPI32.DLL'
  RVA 000010BC, 78130000 - 781cb000: 'C:\WINXP\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.5592_x-ww_179798c8\msvcr80.dll'
  RVA 00001128, 00c60000 - 00cbf000: 'C:\Program Files\DGAgent\plugins\09D849B6-32D3-4A40-85EE-6B84BA29E35B\ame_smtpsensor.dll'
  RVA 00001194, 10000000 - 10012000: 'C:\Program Files\DGAgent\plugins\8E4EA70A-6128-4B57-BD3F-8E9E0F0DA6BB\os_plugin.dll'
  RVA 00001200, 5ad70000 - 5ada8000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\uxtheme.dll'
  RVA 0000126C, 74720000 - 7476c000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\MSCTF.dll'
  RVA 000012D8, 021a0000 - 021c4000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\igfxdo.dll'
  RVA 00001344, 021f0000 - 02207000: 'C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\esswp40.dll'
  RVA 000013B0, 02220000 - 02233000: 'C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\escgi40.dll'
  RVA 0000141C, 02390000 - 02397000: 'C:\Lotus\sametime client\autoaway.dll'
  RVA 00001488, 6c000000 - 6c00a000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2cli.dll'
  RVA 000014F4, 6c010000 - 6c5b2000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2app.dll'
  RVA 00001560, 6d850000 - 6d9a9000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2sys.dll'
  RVA 000015CC, 742b0000 - 742bd000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2wint.dll'
  RVA 00001638, 7c340000 - 7c396000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\msvcr71.dll'
  RVA 000016A4, 02530000 - 02557000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2sysp.dll'
  RVA 00001710, 6d9b0000 - 6db5e000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2osse.dll'
  RVA 0000177C, 02560000 - 025cd000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2g11n.dll'
  RVA 000017E8, 023a0000 - 023ac000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2locale.dll'
  RVA 00001854, 025d0000 - 025d9000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2sec.dll'
  RVA 000018C0, 5b860000 - 5b8b5000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\netapi32.dll'
  RVA 0000192C, 025e0000 - 025ea000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2trcapi.dll'
  RVA 00001998, 025f0000 - 025f7000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2install.dll'
  RVA 00001A04, 02600000 - 0262b000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2genreg.dll'
  RVA 00001A70, 71a50000 - 71a8f000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\mswsock.dll'
  RVA 00001ADC, 02630000 - 02647000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2dascmn.dll'
  RVA 00001B48, 02650000 - 02661000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2osse_db2.dll'
  RVA 00001BB4, 77690000 - 776b1000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ntmarta.dll'
  RVA 00001C20, 71bf0000 - 71c03000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\samlib.dll'
  RVA 00001C8C, 76f60000 - 76f8c000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\wldap32.dll'
  RVA 00001CF8, 02860000 - 02869000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\security\plugin\IBM\client\IBMOSauthclient.dll'
  RVA 00001D64, 02870000 - 02880000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\icc\icc\icclib\icclib.dll'
  RVA 00001DD0, 02880000 - 0293d000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\icc\icc\osslib\libeay32.dll'
  RVA 00001E3C, 71ad0000 - 71ad9000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\wsock32.dll'
  RVA 00001EA8, 74d70000 - 74d81000: 'C:\Program Files\IBM\SQLLIB\BIN\db2tcp.dll'
  RVA 00001F14, 76f20000 - 76f47000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\dnsapi.dll'
  RVA 00001F80, 76d60000 - 76d79000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\iphlpapi.dll'
  RVA 00001FEC, 76fb0000 - 76fb8000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\winrnr.dll'
  RVA 00002058, 66210000 - 66219000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\NetWare\nwws2nds.dll'
  RVA 000020C4, 02a60000 - 02a95000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\netwin32.dll'
  RVA 00002130, 66220000 - 6622c000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\NetWare\nwws2slp.dll'
  RVA 0000219C, 66250000 - 66256000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\nwsrvloc.dll'
  RVA 00002208, 76fc0000 - 76fc6000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\rasadhlp.dll'
  RVA 00002274, 662b0000 - 66308000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\hnetcfg.dll'
  RVA 000022E0, 71a90000 - 71a98000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\wshtcpip.dll'
  RVA 0000234C, 763b0000 - 763f9000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\comdlg32.dll'
  RVA 000023B8, 77b40000 - 77b62000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\apphelp.dll'
  RVA 00002424, 76fd0000 - 7704f000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\clbcatq.dll'
  RVA 00002490, 77050000 - 77115000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\comres.dll'
  RVA 000024FC, 77a20000 - 77a74000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\cscui.dll'
  RVA 00002568, 76600000 - 7661d000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\cscdll.dll'
  RVA 000025D4, 75f80000 - 7607d000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\browseui.dll'
  RVA 00002640, 77920000 - 77a13000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\setupapi.dll'
  RVA 000026AC, 76990000 - 769b5000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\ntshrui.dll'
  RVA 00002718, 76b20000 - 76b31000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\atl.dll'
  RVA 00002784, 7e290000 - 7e403000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\shdocvw.dll'
  RVA 000027F0, 754d0000 - 75550000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\cryptui.dll'
  RVA 0000285C, 76c30000 - 76c5e000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\wintrust.dll'
  RVA 000028C8, 76c90000 - 76cb8000: 'C:\WINXP\system32\imagehlp.dll'

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Thanks Again!!!

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Ok, so now my app just disappears(when I tried to narrow down on the problem)... :( Here are the contents of the vmtrap.log file.

-Platform Information-------------------
VM Timestamp: 4.0,(NC) 6/12/2007 (74)
CPU Architecture: i386
OS Type: WIN32_NT
OS Version: 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3
-State Information----------------------
Handler=0x00478d00
vmState=0x00000000
vmError=0x00000035
ExceptionCode=0xc0000005
ExceptionAddress=0x00472678
ContextFlags=0x0001003f
Module=C:\CALCBLDR\CALCBLDR4x\ESVM40.dll
Module_base_address=0x00420000
Offset_in_DLL=0x00052678
EDI=0x00153878
ESI=0x002434f4
EAX=0x0000dac4
EBX=0x05f2d159
ECX=0x0517e968
EDX=0x053b4398
EBP=0x00165db0
ESP=0x0012ed7c
EIP=0x00472678
-----------------------------------------

Thanks!

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