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Where is DateAndTime defined?

Steve Cline
I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something somehow?

Thanks, Steve
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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Randy Coulman
Steve,

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

Randy


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:
I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Steve Cline
Thanks Randy - I must have mis-remembered - I had thought that VW had added the ANSI-standard time realted classes Duration (which is there) and DateAndTime (which is not) some time ago, but I must be thinking of a different dialect, probably VA
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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Paul Baumann
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You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

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Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Kooyman, Les
I wasn't aware that the ANSI Smalltalk standard was ever adopted. I believe it is still in draft status, FWIW.

Les

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You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randy Coulman
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 19:04
To: Steve Cline
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

 

Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Richard Sargent (again)
Don't tell that to ANSI; they're selling the published document.


From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kooyman, Les
Sent: May 30, 2014 14:24
To: Paul Baumann; 'Randy Coulman'; Steve Cline
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

I wasn't aware that the ANSI Smalltalk standard was ever adopted. I believe it is still in draft status, FWIW.

Les

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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randy Coulman
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 19:04
To: Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

 

Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

John Pfersich
The Smalltalk standard was approved May 19, 1998 and I have a revision from 2002.

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On May 31, 2014, at 11:20, "Richard Sargent" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Don't tell that to ANSI; they're selling the published document.


From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kooyman, Les
Sent: May 30, 2014 14:24
To: Paul Baumann; 'Randy Coulman'; Steve Cline
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

I wasn't aware that the ANSI Smalltalk standard was ever adopted. I believe it is still in draft status, FWIW.

Les

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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randy Coulman
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 19:04
To: Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

 

Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Kooyman, Les
In reply to this post by Richard Sargent (again)
Is the document they're selling marked draft? If not, is there an adoption date?

Thanks, 
Les

From: Richard Sargent [[hidden email]]
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Subject: RE: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

Don't tell that to ANSI; they're selling the published document.


From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kooyman, Les
Sent: May 30, 2014 14:24
To: Paul Baumann; 'Randy Coulman'; Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

I wasn't aware that the ANSI Smalltalk standard was ever adopted. I believe it is still in draft status, FWIW.

Les

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Paul Baumann [[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:18 AM
To: 'Randy Coulman'; Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randy Coulman
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 19:04
To: Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

 

Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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Re: Where is DateAndTime defined?

Kooyman, Les
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Thanks, the information I had was obviously stale.

From: John Pfersich [[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:45 AM
To: Richard Sargent
Cc: Kooyman, Les; Paul Baumann; Randy Coulman; Steve Cline; VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

The Smalltalk standard was approved May 19, 1998 and I have a revision from 2002.

Sent from my iPad

On May 31, 2014, at 11:20, "Richard Sargent" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Don't tell that to ANSI; they're selling the published document.


From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kooyman, Les
Sent: May 30, 2014 14:24
To: Paul Baumann; 'Randy Coulman'; Steve Cline
Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

I wasn't aware that the ANSI Smalltalk standard was ever adopted. I believe it is still in draft status, FWIW.

Les

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Paul Baumann [[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

You might also find it in a package or parcel that provides Chronos support. DateAndTime is an ANSI standard that some dialects have been extended to support. It is now defined in GS/S, and the GBS (therefore VW) mapping is to GbxDateAndTime because the VW kernel is out of ANSI compliance (at least in the VW 7.5 image I'm still looking at).

 

Paul Baumann

 

 

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randy Coulman
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 19:04
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Cc: VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Where is DateAndTime defined?

 

Steve,

 

Visualworks doesn't have a class named DateAndTime; it has Timestamp instead.  However, if you're trying to be compatible with Squeak/Pharo, the Grease packages define DateAndTime as a subclass of Timestamp.

 

Randy

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Steve Cline <[hidden email]> wrote:

I looked a base 7.9 & 7.10.1 image and did not find the class - is there a
package that needs to be loaded to get this? Or have I stepped on something
somehow?

Thanks, Steve



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