Where to start

Hi all,

I'm looking at Iliad, and I have it working (I suppose) under OSX and Linux.

Now, I want to start to hack a little, but I don't know from where to start. The aren't too much documentation at Iliad site, and don't explain how to start an application.

For example, I start the daemon with start script, but, how I load a package, Class, Application, and so on to this working gst/Iliad daemon?

Sorry if this is obvious. I'm new to GST and Iliad.

Cheers.

Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz
Blog: http://www.lordzealon.com
Twitter & Skype & GoogleTalk accounts: glpunzi

Hi =)

Welcome in our small-but-growing-iliad-community =)

It is true the documentation is not yet very complete (at all =p). I oftenly say to Nico and Seb "hey i'm gonna write some doc" but i never finished anything yet :/

Still, i know nothing about GST, but, about Iliad, this is how you can start :

- start the Swazoo server : SwazooIliad startOn: xxxx, where xxxx is any free port you want to work with
- open a web browser
- check the example applications at: http://localhost:8888/browse
- check the documentation at http://www.iliadproject.org/pages/Documentation
- ask new questions =)

I just checked to be sure, it seems the way to start with gst-iliad is to use the script

./start.sh -p xxxx

where xxxx is the port number.

-Steven Costiou-

2010/6/1 Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz <[hidden email]>

Hi all,

I'm looking at Iliad, and I have it working (I suppose) under OSX and Linux.

Now, I want to start to hack a little, but I don't know from where to start. The aren't too much documentation at Iliad site, and don't explain how to start an application.

For example, I start the daemon with start script, but, how I load a package, Class, Application, and so on to this working gst/Iliad daemon?

Sorry if this is obvious. I'm new to GST and Iliad.

Cheers.

Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz
Blog: http://www.lordzealon.com
Twitter & Skype & GoogleTalk accounts: glpunzi

Hi Nico,

El mié, 02-06-2010 a las 13:11 +0200, Nicolas Petton escribió:

Hi Guiseppe,

Welcome to this list :)

Thanks ;)

It's true Iliad doesn't have much documentation.
The code itself is a bit more documented.
I suggest to read comments in the code, starting with Core-Buildable
classes, especially ILApplication and ILWidget.

Uh...then I will need wait to VisualGST be fixed for this, I don't fell very comfortable with emacs for the moment.
An Eclipse plugin for this could be great too, but this, needs people interested working on this.

There are also blog posts about iliad:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/tags/iliad

About Iliad examples:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/nico/iliad-examples-explained-part-i-counter-example
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/nico/iliad-examples-explained-part-ii
(this example is now removed but the explanations should still be valid)

Another one about Formula:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/nico/formula-building-nice-validated-forms-iliad-ease

About Comet in Iliad:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/nico/iliad-applications-comet

About Bookmarking AJAX applications:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/nico/bookmarking-ajax-applications-iliad-and-fixing-back-button

I will check all this links, thanks.

> For example, I start the daemon with start script, but, how I load a  
> package, Class, Application, and so on to this working gst/Iliad daemon?

You can filein you classes or create a .star package and load it (this
is probably a question for GNU-Smalltalk mailing-list).
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/faq/55

Well, my questions, was because my approach to smalltalk, was with Squeak. In Squeak, you have your image, and load/change things live (well, you know a lot about this :P )...with GST I'm searching the way. Is, another "change of chip"

keep asking questions!
Nico

Thanks again ;)