Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
Close window - ctrl + w? Minimize window - ctrl + ??? Maximize window - ctrl + ??? Open browser - ctrl + ? Open Monticello browser ? Go to next window? My idea is to: - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this) Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) Guille |
On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) It would be good to have several maps on mac apple-w for closing windows I would love to have a map with ctrle ctrla like in emacs > > Close window - ctrl + w? > Minimize window - ctrl + ??? > Maximize window - ctrl + ??? > > Open browser - ctrl + ? > Open Monticello browser ? > > Go to next window? > > My idea is to: > > - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want > - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts > - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this) > > Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) > > Guille |
This is wonderful, thank you!
I second the request for Emacs-like keybindings (ctrl-a for beginning of line, ctrl-e for end), and also would really like to add: * (Non-emacs related -- the emacs way would be Ctrl-X + B + Enter) Ctrl-Tab to switch to a previous editor window (or just previous window in general, if the previous one was a workspace) within Pharo. (And, Ctrl-Shift-Tab to switch back). Dmitri Zagidulin On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) > > > It would be good to have several maps > > on mac apple-w for closing windows > > I would love to have a map with > ctrle > ctrla > like in emacs > >> >> Close window - ctrl + w? >> Minimize window - ctrl + ??? >> Maximize window - ctrl + ??? >> >> Open browser - ctrl + ? >> Open Monticello browser ? >> >> Go to next window? >> >> My idea is to: >> >> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want >> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts >> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this) >> >> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) >> >> Guille > > > |
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On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Mmm, today keymapping does not support platform specific shortcuts... Maybe I can write it down in my wishlist, but I don't think it is not critical. What do you think?
Ah, thats already supported :D.
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On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
isnt this the case? cmd + b closes the windows for me
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> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) > > > It would be good to have several maps > > on mac apple-w for closing windows > > Mmm, today keymapping does not support platform specific shortcuts... Maybe I can write it down in my wishlist, but I don't think it is not critical. What do you think? this can be managed by setting different maps and merging them and using the OSPlatform class > I would love to have a map with > ctrle > ctrla > like in emacs > > Ah, thats already supported :D. rahhhhhhhh lovely (Gotlieb reference for the belgium school comics reader). > > > > > > Close window - ctrl + w? > > Minimize window - ctrl + ??? > > Maximize window - ctrl + ??? > > > > Open browser - ctrl + ? > > Open Monticello browser ? > > > > Go to next window? > > > > My idea is to: > > > > - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want > > - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts > > - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this) > > > > Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) > > > > Guille > > > |
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On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) > > > It would be good to have several maps > > on mac apple-w for closing windows > > isnt this the case? cmd + b closes the windows for me yes I was just saying that this one is important to keep :) > > > I would love to have a map with > ctrle > ctrla > like in emacs > > > > > Close window - ctrl + w? > > Minimize window - ctrl + ??? > > Maximize window - ctrl + ??? > > > > Open browser - ctrl + ? > > Open Monticello browser ? > > > > Go to next window? > > > > My idea is to: > > > > - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want > > - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts > > - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this) > > > > Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) > > > > Guille > > > |
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Hi Guille. I would like:
- a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of opened windows) - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc. - Shortcut for duplicating a windows - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;) Cheers mariano On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) |
my wishlist:
- a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them On 26 December 2010 21:46, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Guille. I would like: > > - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. > - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows > - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of > opened windows) > - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, > etc. > - Shortcut for duplicating a windows > - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) > > > Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;) > > Cheers > > mariano > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched? >> We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b) >> >> Close window - ctrl + w? >> Minimize window - ctrl + ??? >> Maximize window - ctrl + ??? >> >> Open browser - ctrl + ? >> Open Monticello browser ? >> >> Go to next window? >> >> My idea is to: >> >> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want >> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of >> shortcuts >> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have >> an extension to load to do this) >> >> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe) >> >> Guille > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. |
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: my wishlist: for me the shortcut is not necessary, but a UI to list them and modify yes! Maybe a Settings integration ? cheers mariano
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On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: my wishlist: + a lot
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On 26 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> my wishlist: >> >> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them > > for me the shortcut is not necessary, but a UI to list them and modify yes! > Maybe a Settings integration ? > NO. i want to change a shortcut which opens a window where i can change a shortcut to open a window to change a shortcut to open a window to change a shortcut ... :) yeah.. sure i can live without such shortcut.. but not without UI :) > cheers > > mariano > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. |
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+ 1 :)
And save them as configuration > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: > my wishlist: > > - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them > > + a lot |
Wow, haha, this is wonderful! So, putting some order:
1) shortcuts published as settings with a default? Will that be ok? This make me think the following: - how to share shortcuts. Files? Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX) - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts. 2) support for the following shortcuts: - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of opened windows) - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc. - Shortcut for duplicating a windows - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them. #1 seems to be of some work :). I'll work on it ASAP. Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :). Cheers! Guille On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: + 1 :) |
What about something like the attach?
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: Wow, haha, this is wonderful! So, putting some order: PharoScreenshot.2.png (43K) Download Attachment |
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On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Wow, haha, this is wonderful! So, putting some order: > > 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default? Will that be ok? This make me think the following: > - how to share shortcuts. Files? Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX) No XML please Use storeOn methods for a named list of shortcuts + application of named list to a context (all textMorph, the complete environments....) > - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts. But you reload your configuration and hop nothing lost > 2) support for the following shortcuts: > - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. > - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows > - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of opened windows) > - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc. > - Shortcut for duplicating a windows > - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) > - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving > - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts > > I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them. > #1 seems to be of some work :). I'll work on it ASAP. > > Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :). > > Cheers! > Guille > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > + 1 :) > And save them as configuration > > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: > > my wishlist: > > > > - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them > > > > + a lot > > > |
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I suggest that you define lists =
simple eamcs bindings = ctral a ctrle Windows manipulation cmd W ... Your special binding Then you should have contexts World TextMorph Editor only (of course some list will only be able to be attached to a given object programmatically example: for botsinc I wanted specific binding to that morph class only -- but you do not care) then a config is (lists, lists) context (mybinding, lists, lists) context where , make sure that mybinding take precedence Does it make sense? Stef On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > What about something like the attach? > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: > Wow, haha, this is wonderful! So, putting some order: > > 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default? Will that be ok? This make me think the following: > - how to share shortcuts. Files? Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX) > - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts. > > 2) support for the following shortcuts: > > - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. > - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows > - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of opened windows) > - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc. > - Shortcut for duplicating a windows > - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) > - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving > - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts > > I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them. > #1 seems to be of some work :). I'll work on it ASAP. > > Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :). > > Cheers! > Guille > > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > + 1 :) > And save them as configuration > > > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: > > my wishlist: > > > > - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them > > > > + a lot > > > > > <PharoScreenshot.2.png> |
I also would like a cmd+f: search anything... but that needs also an application (like algernon, which I'm currently not supporting anymore due time issues), not just a command :(
well, at least a cmd+f: search class would be fine :) El 27/12/2010, a las 5:38a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > I suggest that you define lists = > > simple eamcs bindings = > ctral a ctrle > > Windows manipulation > cmd W > ... > > Your special binding > > > Then you should have contexts > World > TextMorph > Editor only > > (of course some list will only be able to be attached to a given object programmatically > example: for botsinc I wanted specific binding to that morph class only -- but you do not care) > > then a config is > > (lists, lists) context > (mybinding, lists, lists) context > > where , make sure that mybinding take precedence > > > Does it make sense? > > Stef > > > > On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> What about something like the attach? >> >> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Wow, haha, this is wonderful! So, putting some order: >> >> 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default? Will that be ok? This make me think the following: >> - how to share shortcuts. Files? Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX) >> - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts. >> >> 2) support for the following shortcuts: >> >> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut. >> - use ctrl + tab to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows >> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click (list of opened windows) >> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc. >> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows >> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?) >> - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving >> - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts >> >> I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them. >> #1 seems to be of some work :). I'll work on it ASAP. >> >> Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :). >> >> Cheers! >> Guille >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> + 1 :) >> And save them as configuration >> >>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> my wishlist: >>> >>> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them >>> >>> + a lot >> >> >> >> >> <PharoScreenshot.2.png> > > |
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: I also would like a cmd+f: search anything... but that needs also an application (like algernon, which I'm currently not supporting anymore due time issues), not just a command :( +1 It sound like a good project for someone with time and wanting to learn :)
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