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Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Guillermo Polito
Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)

Close window - ctrl + w?
Minimize window - ctrl + ???
Maximize window - ctrl + ???

Open browser - ctrl + ?
Open Monticello browser ?

Go to next window?

My idea is to:

- get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
- build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
- gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)

Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)

Guille
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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse

On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)


It would be good to have several maps

on mac apple-w for closing windows

I would love to have a map with
        ctrle
        ctrla
        like in emacs

>
> Close window - ctrl + w?
> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>
> Open browser - ctrl + ?
> Open Monticello browser ?
>
> Go to next window?
>
> My idea is to:
>
> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
>
> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>
> Guille


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Dmitri Zagidulin
This is wonderful, thank you!

I second the request for Emacs-like keybindings (ctrl-a for beginning
of line, ctrl-e for end),
and also would really like to add:
* (Non-emacs related -- the emacs way would be Ctrl-X + B + Enter)
Ctrl-Tab to switch to a previous editor window (or just previous
window in general, if the previous one was a workspace) within Pharo.
(And, Ctrl-Shift-Tab to switch back).

Dmitri Zagidulin

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
>> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>
>
> It would be good to have several maps
>
> on mac apple-w for closing windows
>
> I would love to have a map with
>        ctrle
>        ctrla
>        like in emacs
>
>>
>> Close window - ctrl + w?
>> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
>> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>>
>> Open browser - ctrl + ?
>> Open Monticello browser ?
>>
>> Go to next window?
>>
>> My idea is to:
>>
>> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
>> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
>> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
>>
>> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>>
>> Guille
>
>
>

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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Guillermo Polito
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On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)


It would be good to have several maps

on mac apple-w for closing windows

Mmm, today keymapping does not support platform specific shortcuts...  Maybe I can write it down in my wishlist, but I don't think it is not critical.  What do you think?


I would love to have a map with
       ctrle
       ctrla
       like in emacs

Ah, thats already supported :D.
 

>
> Close window - ctrl + w?
> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>
> Open browser - ctrl + ?
> Open Monticello browser ?
>
> Go to next window?
>
> My idea is to:
>
> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
>
> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>
> Guille



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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Mariano Martinez Peck
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On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)


It would be good to have several maps

on mac apple-w for closing windows

isnt this the case?  cmd + b  closes the windows for me
 

I would love to have a map with
       ctrle
       ctrla
       like in emacs

>
> Close window - ctrl + w?
> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>
> Open browser - ctrl + ?
> Open Monticello browser ?
>
> Go to next window?
>
> My idea is to:
>
> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
>
> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>
> Guille



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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse
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> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
> > Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>
>
> It would be good to have several maps
>
> on mac apple-w for closing windows
>
> Mmm, today keymapping does not support platform specific shortcuts...  Maybe I can write it down in my wishlist, but I don't think it is not critical.  What do you think?

this can be managed by setting different maps and merging them
and using the OSPlatform class


> I would love to have a map with
>        ctrle
>        ctrla
>        like in emacs
>
> Ah, thats already supported :D.


rahhhhhhhh lovely (Gotlieb reference for the belgium school comics reader).

>  
>
> >
> > Close window - ctrl + w?
> > Minimize window - ctrl + ???
> > Maximize window - ctrl + ???
> >
> > Open browser - ctrl + ?
> > Open Monticello browser ?
> >
> > Go to next window?
> >
> > My idea is to:
> >
> > - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
> > - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
> > - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
> >
> > Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
> >
> > Guille
>
>
>


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse
In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
> > Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>
>
> It would be good to have several maps
>
> on mac apple-w for closing windows
>
> isnt this the case?  cmd + b  closes the windows for me

yes
I was just saying that this one is important to keep :)

>  
>
> I would love to have a map with
>        ctrle
>        ctrla
>        like in emacs
>
> >
> > Close window - ctrl + w?
> > Minimize window - ctrl + ???
> > Maximize window - ctrl + ???
> >
> > Open browser - ctrl + ?
> > Open Monticello browser ?
> >
> > Go to next window?
> >
> > My idea is to:
> >
> > - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
> > - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
> > - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)
> >
> > Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
> >
> > Guille
>
>
>


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Mariano Martinez Peck
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Hi Guille. I would like:

- a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
- use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
- a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
- Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
- Shortcut for duplicating a windows
- a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)


Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;)

Cheers

mariano

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?  We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)

Close window - ctrl + w?
Minimize window - ctrl + ???
Maximize window - ctrl + ???

Open browser - ctrl + ?
Open Monticello browser ?

Go to next window?

My idea is to:

- get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
- build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of shortcuts
- gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have an extension to load to do this)

Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)

Guille

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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Igor Stasenko
my wishlist:

- a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them

On 26 December 2010 21:46, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Guille. I would like:
>
> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of
> opened windows)
> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner,
> etc.
> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
>
>
> Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> mariano
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?
>> We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>>
>> Close window - ctrl + w?
>> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
>> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>>
>> Open browser - ctrl + ?
>> Open Monticello browser ?
>>
>> Go to next window?
>>
>> My idea is to:
>>
>> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
>> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of
>> shortcuts
>> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have
>> an extension to load to do this)
>>
>> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>>
>> Guille
>
>



--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Mariano Martinez Peck


On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
my wishlist:

- a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them

for me the shortcut is not necessary, but a UI to list them and modify yes!
Maybe a Settings integration ?

cheers

mariano
 

On 26 December 2010 21:46, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Guille. I would like:
>
> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of
> opened windows)
> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner,
> etc.
> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
>
>
> Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> mariano
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?
>> We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>>
>> Close window - ctrl + w?
>> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
>> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>>
>> Open browser - ctrl + ?
>> Open Monticello browser ?
>>
>> Go to next window?
>>
>> My idea is to:
>>
>> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
>> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of
>> shortcuts
>> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have
>> an extension to load to do this)
>>
>> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>>
>> Guille
>
>



--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Eliot Miranda-2
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On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
my wishlist:

- a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them

+ a lot


 

On 26 December 2010 21:46, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Guille. I would like:
>
> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of
> opened windows)
> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner,
> etc.
> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
>
>
> Ok, that's so far my wishlist ;)
>
> Cheers
>
> mariano
>
> On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Which shortcuts would you like to have, and how should they be launched?
>> We can choose combinations such as (ctrl + a, ctrl + b)
>>
>> Close window - ctrl + w?
>> Minimize window - ctrl + ???
>> Maximize window - ctrl + ???
>>
>> Open browser - ctrl + ?
>> Open Monticello browser ?
>>
>> Go to next window?
>>
>> My idea is to:
>>
>> - get an idea of what kind of keymaps do we want
>> - build them using Keymapping, so I can test it well with a nice set of
>> shortcuts
>> - gradually replace hardcoded shortcuts with Keymappings (at least to have
>> an extension to load to do this)
>>
>> Merry christmas :) (Here is 9 pm yet, hehe)
>>
>> Guille
>
>



--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Igor Stasenko
In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
On 26 December 2010 22:32, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> my wishlist:
>>
>> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>
> for me the shortcut is not necessary, but a UI to list them and modify yes!
> Maybe a Settings integration ?
>

NO.
i want to change a shortcut which opens a window where i can change a
shortcut to open a window to change a shortcut to open a
window to change a shortcut ... :)


yeah.. sure i can live without such shortcut.. but not without UI :)

> cheers
>
> mariano
>



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Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse
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+ 1 :)
And save them as configuration

> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> my wishlist:
>
> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>
> + a lot


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Guillermo Polito
Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:

1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
- how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)
- downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.

2) support for the following shortcuts:
- a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
- use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
- a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
- Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
- Shortcut for duplicating a windows
- a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
- a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
- a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts

I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
#1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.

Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).

Cheers!
Guille

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
+ 1 :)
And save them as configuration

> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> my wishlist:
>
> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>
> + a lot



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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Guillermo Polito
What about something like the attach?

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:

1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
- how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)
- downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.

2) support for the following shortcuts:

- a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
- use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
- a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
- Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
- Shortcut for duplicating a windows
- a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
- a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
- a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts

I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
#1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.

Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).

Cheers!
Guille


On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
+ 1 :)
And save them as configuration

> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> my wishlist:
>
> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>
> + a lot





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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:
>
> 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
> - how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)

        No XML please
        Use storeOn methods for a named list of shortcuts
        + application of named list to a context (all textMorph, the complete environments....)

       
> - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.

        But you reload your configuration and hop nothing lost

> 2) support for the following shortcuts:
> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
> - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
> - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts
>
> I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
> #1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.
>
> Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).
>
> Cheers!
> Guille
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> + 1 :)
> And save them as configuration
>
> > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > my wishlist:
> >
> > - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
> >
> > + a lot
>
>
>


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Stéphane Ducasse
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I suggest that you define lists =

simple eamcs bindings =
        ctral a ctrle

Windows manipulation
        cmd W
        ...

Your special binding
       

Then you should have contexts
        World
        TextMorph
        Editor only

        (of course some list will only be able to be attached to a given object programmatically
        example: for botsinc I wanted specific binding to that morph class only -- but you do not care)

then a config is

        (lists, lists) context
        (mybinding, lists, lists) context

where , make sure that mybinding take precedence


Does it make sense?

Stef



On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> What about something like the attach?
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:
>
> 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
> - how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)
> - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.
>
> 2) support for the following shortcuts:
>
> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
> - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
> - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts
>
> I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
> #1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.
>
> Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).
>
> Cheers!
> Guille
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> + 1 :)
> And save them as configuration
>
> > On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > my wishlist:
> >
> > - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
> >
> > + a lot
>
>
>
>
> <PharoScreenshot.2.png>


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

EstebanLM
I also would like a cmd+f: search anything... but that needs also an application (like algernon, which I'm currently not supporting anymore due time issues), not just a command :(
well, at least a cmd+f: search class would be fine :)

El 27/12/2010, a las 5:38a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió:

> I suggest that you define lists =
>
> simple eamcs bindings =
> ctral a ctrle
>
> Windows manipulation
> cmd W
> ...
>
> Your special binding
>
>
> Then you should have contexts
> World
> TextMorph
> Editor only
>
> (of course some list will only be able to be attached to a given object programmatically
> example: for botsinc I wanted specific binding to that morph class only -- but you do not care)
>
> then a config is
>
> (lists, lists) context
> (mybinding, lists, lists) context
>
> where , make sure that mybinding take precedence
>
>
> Does it make sense?
>
> Stef
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
>> What about something like the attach?
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:
>>
>> 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
>> - how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)
>> - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.
>>
>> 2) support for the following shortcuts:
>>
>> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
>> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
>> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
>> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
>> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
>> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
>> - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
>> - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts
>>
>> I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
>> #1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.
>>
>> Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Guille
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> + 1 :)
>> And save them as configuration
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> my wishlist:
>>>
>>> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>>>
>>> + a lot
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <PharoScreenshot.2.png>
>
>


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Re: Which Keymaps/Shortcuts do we want to have?

Mariano Martinez Peck


On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
I also would like a cmd+f: search anything... but that needs also an application (like algernon, which I'm currently not supporting anymore due time issues), not just a command :(
well, at least a cmd+f: search class would be fine :)

+1
It sound like a good project for someone with time and wanting to learn :)
 

El 27/12/2010, a las 5:38a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió:

> I suggest that you define lists =
>
> simple eamcs bindings =
>       ctral a ctrle
>
> Windows manipulation
>       cmd W
>       ...
>
> Your special binding
>
>
> Then you should have contexts
>       World
>       TextMorph
>       Editor only
>
>       (of course some list will only be able to be attached to a given object programmatically
>       example: for botsinc I wanted specific binding to that morph class only -- but you do not care)
>
> then a config is
>
>       (lists, lists) context
>       (mybinding, lists, lists) context
>
> where , make sure that mybinding take precedence
>
>
> Does it make sense?
>
> Stef
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
>> What about something like the attach?
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Wow, haha, this is wonderful!  So, putting some order:
>>
>> 1) shortcuts published as settings with a default?  Will that be ok?  This make me think the following:
>> - how to share shortcuts. Files?  Keymapping used to use SIXX, but maybe it is not suitable for a light solution (I don't know much about SIXX)
>> - downloading a new image (or a new version of a package with shortcuts) could make us lose our own-defined shortcuts.
>>
>> 2) support for the following shortcuts:
>>
>> - a shortcut to bring up the wolrd menu. Not sure which shortcut.
>> - use ctrl + tab  to switch between windows instead of cmd + arrows
>> - a shortcut for what it is (hidden) now with cmd + shift + click  (list of opened windows)
>> - Shortcuts for opening standard tools: Workspace, Transcript, TestRunner, etc.
>> - Shortcut for duplicating a windows
>> - a shortcut for saving the image (cmd+ shoft + s ?)
>> - a shortcut for quitting the image with and without saving
>> - a shortcut to see a list of shortcuts
>>
>> I would like to add some more items to #2, and to define the keys that triggers them.
>> #1 seems to be of some work :).  I'll work on it ASAP.
>>
>> Step by step, as Stef and Mostaza Merlo says :).
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Guille
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> + 1 :)
>> And save them as configuration
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> my wishlist:
>>>
>>> - a shortcut to see all available shortcuts and change them
>>>
>>> + a lot
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <PharoScreenshot.2.png>
>
>