among them. And for startups, being able to build a solution and put
into market very fast. Web solutions specially, noone ask here what is
Dne 29. 03. 2013 14:59, piše Sean P. DeNigris:
> Victor wrote
>> Traditionally and culturally, at first glance, forgive me if I'm
>> stereotyping, but the smalltalk world seems to be heavily biased towards
>> academic and large proprietary enterprise tooling and development
>> environments
>
> I have also heard this (from non-Smalltalkers). My experience in the
> community (just 3 years) is markedly different. Although there is definitely
> strength in academic (e.g. Noury's great robotics stuff [2]) and enterprise
> settings, if I had to pick the most common scenario, I see many vibrant
> small businesses (e.g. Inceptive [1]) doing web and desktop apps.
>
> For myself, I use Smalltalk as it was intended... as prototype Dynabook
> software ;) I am slowly wrapping my world (calendar, todos, notetaking,
> journal) in Smalltalk because I will not accept anything less from my
> computer than live turtles all the way down.
>
> I also use it to replace shell scripts, to run Jenkins jobs, and to write
> web and desktop apps for small businesses - you would never run out of work
> if you went around to people using Excel spreadsheets and built Smalltalk
> apps that express their intentions on their own terms, instead of Excel's
> (or whatever other off the shelf garbage they're using).
>
> [1]
http://inceptive.be/> [2]
https://www.google.com/search?q=noury+robotics>
> p.s. Pharo has laid a lot of groundwork in the last few years to magnify all
> this. When I first discovered Smalltalk, I was excited by the power, but
> frustrated by the mess under the covers of Squeak (FileDirectory was
> particularly agonizing). Whenever I started to develop a
> revolutionary-next-cool tool, I ran into a mess like the text model. Since
> then, Pharo has been steadily evolving many foundational pieces. There has
> been an upfront cost of backward-compatibility, as some great projects have
> not kept pace. But it seems all worth it, as I feel us approaching a
> critical point where the clean, beautiful system will inspire and support
> the next generation of amazing ideas on top of Pharo.
>
> p.p.s. Squeak has also made a lot of progess and I value it highly :) I'm
> particularly excited about the cooperation and cross-pollination that I've
> seen recently...
>
>
>
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> Cheers,
> Sean
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