Will Continuations continue?

Gilad Bracha's Sun Weblog

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/gbracha?entry=will_continuations_continue

He answers why he thinks JVM shouldn't support continuations.

He mentions Seaside favorably as the best implementation he's seen too. :-)

He tries to clearly state the argument for continuations, and then
makes the point that they are a temporary solution on the way to
downloadable Ajax Java script apps which maintain state & windows
locally. (Though I'd consider Croquet better for this. ;-) )

Cheers,
Darius
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SUN already fuzzed about Smart Java Client which
will maintain state and windows locally 10 years ago.

They even started to make a Java driven computer for that.

So dreams are not always come to reality :-)
While reality (i.e. seaside) always generate dreams in those who missed the point :-)

-Dmitry.

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On 5/19/06, Darius Clarke <[hidden email]> wrote:
> He tries to clearly state the argument for continuations, and then
> makes the point that they are a temporary solution on the way to
> downloadable Ajax Java script apps which maintain state & windows
> locally. (Though I'd consider Croquet better for this. ;-) )

Of course, there is something to say for that.

Lessee - didn't we call these client/server apps back in the early '90s?
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On May 19, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Darius Clarke wrote:

As a data point, it's certainly interesting to note that Dabble DB  
makes very little use of call/answer - the only major uses are when  
importing and when processing payments.  We were intentionally going  
for a very modeless UI style, so this shouldn't be too surprising.  
The question is whether this kind of modeless web app will become  
more common... it seems like it probably will.  If so, then yes, the  
continuation aspects of Seaside will become less interesting, and the  
callback aspects will become more interesting...

Avi
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>
> Lessee - didn't we call these client/server apps back in the early '90s?

client/server had a distribution problem derived from the false
assumption that applications don't quickly. AJAX apps avoid this. The
server defines and controls the app, the data, and the communications
which makes it more robust.

It's still weak on sharing presence, sharing interest, sharing
attention, media creativity and shared distributed CPU computing which
Croquet supports in a better manner.

Even Google's Sketch-Up must be downloaded.

Darius
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