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On 11/29/2009 05:57 PM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> I try to install automake and autoconf, but fail to do so. I think I'd need > m4 instal before autoconf and automake. > > m4 installation not successful either. I tried with other version of m4, I > still got same error. Is there any sequence I need to follow in installing > these packages that I'll need to build gst? Why don't you use binary packages? Also, what is the error you get for m4? If you don't post error messages, my answer is guaranteed to be "I don't know". Finally, do you have by chance Linux installed, even in a VM? Then you could try cross-compilation. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi,
may be you can try to install msys and mingw here is a short tutorial to install autoconf/make/m4/... for windows http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSYS the place to download the files http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/ Cheers, Gwen On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 08:57 -0800, Ang Beepeng wrote: > Hi. > > I try to install automake and autoconf, but fail to do so. I think I'd need > m4 instal before autoconf and automake. > > m4 installation not successful either. I tried with other version of m4, I > still got same error. Is there any sequence I need to follow in installing > these packages that I'll need to build gst? > > Can you show me what I will need (every single one), from scratch to build > gst. cygwin, libtool etc. My pc have msys, mingw and others. I'm not sure if > they contribute to problem I'm facing. Therefore, I might need to > uninstall/delete everything and start all over again. > > Thanks for you help. > > Ang Beepeng > > Paolo Bonzini-2 wrote: > > > > On 11/25/2009 04:19 PM, Ang Beepeng wrote: > >> I got "command not found". > >> Any other option I can try? > > > > Installing autoconf, automake, libtool, and following what is already > > written at http://smalltalk.gnu.org/download/cvs for example? > > > > Paolo > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > help-smalltalk mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk > > > > > _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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> Hi.
> I try to install automake and autoconf, but fail to do so. I think I'd need > m4 instal before autoconf and automake. > m4 installation not successful either. I tried with other version of m4, I > still got same error. Is there any sequence I need to follow in installing > these packages that I'll need to build gst? > Can you show me what I will need (every single one), from scratch to build > gst. cygwin, libtool etc. My pc have msys, mingw and others. I'm not sure if > they contribute to problem I'm facing. Therefore, I might need to > uninstall/delete everything and start all over again. > Thanks for you help. > Ang Beepeng Hi, I haven't built Smalltalk on Windows for a while, but Cygwin should have all the packages you need available via the standard web installer. In the "Devel" set of packages you will find automake, autoconf, libtool, git etc. and then you can use "git" to get the latest version of smalltalk and build with: autoreconf -vi ./configure make If you haven't installed the appropriate cygwin version of a package, then it is possible cygwin will locate one elsewhere on your computer and cause problems. The safest option might be to remove, or else make sure they are not in your windows PATH, other autoconf, m4, libtool etc. versions. Alternatively, you can type in cygwin e.g. which m4 To see where a particular command is located - you should see something like "/usr/bin/m4" but if it starts with "/cygdrive/c/..." then it has located a version elsewhere on the computer that may cause problems If you want to later use MinGW, then you can avoid having to install autoconf etc. there by typing "make dist" in the cygwin environment to create a "smalltalk-3.1.tar.gz" file which will have configure already included - copy to and unpack this file in your MinGW environment Regards, Freddie -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi, thanks a lot for your help.
I followed your instruction, I install cygwin-devel. I have InfoZip, with its directory set in environment variable "PATH". I get gst source with git. Start building gst with: autoreconf -vi ./configure make I get errors at make. gst20091207.swf I redo process above several times, I got the same thing. I tried both with smalltalk-3.1 and smalltalk-3.0. What can I do? Do you have any idea what goes wrong? Thanks. Ang Beepeng
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On 12/07/2009 03:15 PM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> I redo process above several times, I got the same thing. I tried both with > smalltalk-3.1 and smalltalk-3.0. > What can I do? Do you have any idea what goes wrong? Try passing --disable-generational-gc to configure. It would be just a work around, but still it may fix it. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi. Thanks for helping.
I get source from git, autoreconf -vi ./configure --disable-generational-gc make Is that correct? I saw "zip error", is InfoZip not install properly? http://askoh.net/mmu/beepeng/Smalltalk/GNU/video/20091208/gst20091208.html Thanks. Ang Beepeng
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On 12/08/2009 08:01 AM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> > Hi. Thanks for helping. > > I get source from git, > > autoreconf -vi > ./configure --disable-generational-gc > make > > Is that correct? I saw "zip error", is InfoZip not install properly? > http://askoh.net/mmu/beepeng/Smalltalk/GNU/gst20091208.html Good, that is progress. Very good progress actually. The last thing to do is to install the Cygwin package "zip"; if you are still setting the ZIP environment variable to point it to the native Windows "zip", first try removing that setting because you likely have a "zip" already installed in Cygwin's /usr/bin/zip. If not, you can easily install "zip" using the Cygwin setup.exe. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi,
I install zip using Cgwin setup.exe, and I remove InfoZip that I have previously. Zip error fixed, but error shown at the end of the compilation do not go away. http://askoh.net/mmu/beepeng/Smalltalk/GNU/video/20091209/gst20091209.html Thank you very much. Ang Beepeng
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On 12/08/2009 09:16 PM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> I install zip using Cgwin setup.exe, and I remove InfoZip that I have > previously. > Zip error fixed, but error shown at the end of the compilation do not go > away. > http://askoh.net/mmu/beepeng/Smalltalk/GNU/video/20091209/gst20091209.html You're not using the latest git version. There's no tcp.lo since 3.1, I think. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi.
You're right. For video dated 20091209, I use 3.0 stable. I try build with combination of 3.0, 3.1 with "./configure" and "./configure --disable-generational-gc" respectively. Seems like "./configure --disable-generational-gc" didn't do any help. 3.0 build gives me error as in video 20091209 3.1 build gives me error as in video 20091207 Thanks. Ang Beepeng
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On 12/09/2009 10:44 AM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> > Hi. > > You're right. For video dated 20091209, I use 3.0 stable. > > I try build with combination of 3.0, 3.1 with "./configure" and "./configure > --disable-generational-gc" respectively ... but not git stable. Try that one, please. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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I do not get what you mean. Which one do you think I should use? I followed instruction on http://smalltalk.gnu.org/download/cvs. I use git to get source into my directory. I assume after "git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/smalltalk.git", I will get gst-3.1. After "git checkout -b stable-3.0 origin/stable-3.0" to directory contain gst-3.1, I will get gst-3.0 stable. Is that correct? Am I getting the correct set of source code? Thanks. Ang Beepeng
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On 12/09/2009 11:11 AM, Ang Beepeng wrote:
> > Hi, > > I do not get what you mean. Which one do you think I should use? > > I followed instruction on http://smalltalk.gnu.org/download/cvs. I use git > to get source into my directory. > I assume after "git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/smalltalk.git", I will get > gst-3.1. > After "git checkout -b stable-3.0 origin/stable-3.0" to directory contain > gst-3.1, I will get gst-3.0 stable. > > Is that correct? Am I getting the correct set of source code? Ok, I see. You're actually getting something like GNU Smalltalk version 3.1-c26f213 which you called 3.1. I thought you were referring to stable 3.1, sorry for the misunderstanding. So, for 3.1 you're getting errors that --disable-generational-gc does not fix. What version are you on? I only tested XP and Server 2003, maybe Vista or Windows 7 are broken. Also, sorry for the possibly stupid question, but... why aren't you trying Linux? You could still try Windows every now and then, but now you'd be up and running. (Or maybe you have done so). Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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paolo is helping Ang with some window build problems.
he pauses in that quest to asks Ang "why not use linux?". just fyi: i do a lot of teaching and consulting. it would greatly ease the introduction of GNU smalltalk to a broader community if there was a no hassle build functionality on windows. so please, i hope you all press on with resolving these bugs. t On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 12/09/2009 11:11 AM, Ang Beepeng wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not get what you mean. Which one do you think I should use? >> >> I followed instruction on http://smalltalk.gnu.org/download/cvs. I use git >> to get source into my directory. >> I assume after "git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/smalltalk.git", I will get >> gst-3.1. >> After "git checkout -b stable-3.0 origin/stable-3.0" to directory contain >> gst-3.1, I will get gst-3.0 stable. >> >> Is that correct? Am I getting the correct set of source code? > > Ok, I see. You're actually getting something like > > GNU Smalltalk version 3.1-c26f213 > > which you called 3.1. I thought you were referring to stable 3.1, sorry for > the misunderstanding. > > So, for 3.1 you're getting errors that --disable-generational-gc does not > fix. What version are you on? I only tested XP and Server 2003, maybe > Vista or Windows 7 are broken. > > Also, sorry for the possibly stupid question, but... why aren't you trying > Linux? You could still try Windows every now and then, but now you'd be up > and running. (Or maybe you have done so). > > Paolo > > > _______________________________________________ > help-smalltalk mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk > -- there are those who call me... (dr) timm (menzies)? morgantown (39.6n, -79w), usa assoc prof csee, wvu http://menzies.us PROBLEM: Handling e-mail is very very very slow, resulting in inbox overflow. SOLUTION: Adopt the "http://five.sentenc.es" policy: no responses longer than 5 sentences. It’s that simple. Care to try it? _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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On 12/09/2009 12:38 PM, Tim Menzies wrote:
> so please, i hope you all press on with resolving these bugs. The problem is that it works for me. I do have access to Windows (now) but I cannot use up all my disk to install a zillion versions of Windows. Besides, I was not at all "pausing", the same message includes "What version [of Windows] are you on?". Please. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Hi,
I'm on Windows XP. I'm not familiar with Linux, therefore I choose to keep trying with Windows. Also, due to hardware limitation, is a bit trouble to run Linux, for me now. I'd probably try Linux build when I got another PC to work. Ok, so, I should get a 3.1 stable, right? From git? git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/smalltalk.git followed by git checkout -b stable-3.1 origin/stable-3.1 Is that correct? Thanks. Ang Beepeng
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> Ok, so, I should get a 3.1 stable, right? From git? > > git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/smalltalk.git > followed by > git checkout -b stable-3.1 origin/stable-3.1 > > Is that correct? No, what you were doing before (using master) is correct. There's no stable-3.1 (unfortunate, true). It's bad that it doesn't work: it does for me and I don't know of any difference between XP and Server 2003 that could cause the problem. Sorry, I'm a bit stuck. I'll try to make a binary and send it to you offlist, so you can test that. Give me a day. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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Thank you so so much for all the helps. I hope you don't mind, but if it's possible, can I have one with debugging info? So that I can debug and learn from it. Just forget about it if it is troublesome to you.
Thank you so much. Ang Beepeng
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> Thank you so so much for all the helps. I hope you don't mind, but if it's
> possible, can I have one with debugging info? So that I can debug and learn > from it. Just forget about it if it is troublesome to you. Sure, of course. I'll compile it with CFLAGS=-g and --disable-generational-gc (just one less things that gets in the way). Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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