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Rick Hedin

Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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jarober

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick
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Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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McNeil, Andrew

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards

Andrew

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Not cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-05-02, at 22:58, "McNeil, Andrew" <[hidden email]> wrote:

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards
Andrew

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/
It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick
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Linh Dinh

http upload error

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Hi,

We’ve a web server running Windows 2K3-SP1 with IIS6 and VW-7.2.1 ISAPI ([hidden email], 40,960 bytes, created on 7/28/04). VW External Web Server is configured with Hostname: localhost, Port: 2223, Virtual Directories: cgi.

The setup work fine until we applied the latest Windows security updates. Unloading the Windows security updates didn’t resolve the problem.

In VW 7.2.1 client app, we get the following error message dialog when trying to upload a small file, ~24kb. “Error handling HTTP request: Net.HttpObjectNotFound (404 Not Found)”

In Windows IIS log, we see the following error message.

“date time hostIP POST /cgi/upload – 80 cgi destIP HTTP/1.1 – hostIP 404 2 1772 24848”

We’ve check and re-check the Web Service Extension ([hidden email]) is added and allowed. We’ve verified NETWORK SERVICES account has read/write access to the upload area and is the identity defined in IIS application pool. Short of throwing the server out the window, we can’t seem to get the old setup working again. If anyone can shed some more light into our uploading issue, much will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Linh

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Linh Dinh

Re: http upload error

Found a dim light at the end of the road...

For future reference...In configuring the Application Extension Mapping, do NOT place a check mark on "Verify that file exists".

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Hi,

The setup work fine until we applied the latest Windows security updates. Unloading the Windows security updates didn’t resolve the problem.

In VW 7.2.1 client app, we get the following error message dialog when trying to upload a small file, ~24kb. “Error handling HTTP request: Net.HttpObjectNotFound (404 Not Found)”

In Windows IIS log, we see the following error message.

“date time hostIP POST /cgi/upload – 80 cgi destIP HTTP/1.1 – hostIP 404 2 1772 24848”

Thanks,

Linh

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Rick Hedin

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

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I have no problem installing ObjectStudio to get the Spy feature. Will it fit neatly into VisualWorks, though? It doesn't seem to me obvious that a feature designed for one product will work without bugs in another product. I would hate to cause creeping malaise. (I'm from a C++ world. I introduced an error months ago, and just found out yesterday when we moved to 64 bit.)

Regards,

Rick

2011/5/2 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs <[hidden email]>

Not cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-05-02, at 22:58, "McNeil, Andrew" <[hidden email]> wrote:

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards

Andrew

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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jarober

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That depends. If it has a UI built win ObjectStudio, then the UI won't work in VW. The underlying domain model may or may not work, depending on how tightly tied to OS it is.

On May 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Rick Hedin wrote:

I have no problem installing ObjectStudio to get the Spy feature. Will it fit neatly into VisualWorks, though? It doesn't seem to me obvious that a feature designed for one product will work without bugs in another product. I would hate to cause creeping malaise. (I'm from a C++ world. I introduced an error months ago, and just found out yesterday when we moved to 64 bit.)

              Regards,

              Rick

2011/5/2 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs <[hidden email]>

Not cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-05-02, at 22:58, "McNeil, Andrew" <[hidden email]> wrote:

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards
Andrew

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

            Regards,

            Rick
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Dirk Verleysen-2

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Spy is integrated with the ClassBrowser so it works on VW and ObjectStudio. It was originally an ObjectStudio tool but now it works on both Smalltalks.

Op 3/05/2011 12:56, James Robertson schreef:

That depends. If it has a UI built win ObjectStudio, then the UI won't work in VW. The underlying domain model may or may not work, depending on how tightly tied to OS it is.

On May 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Rick Hedin wrote:

I have no problem installing ObjectStudio to get the Spy feature. Will it fit neatly into VisualWorks, though? It doesn't seem to me obvious that a feature designed for one product will work without bugs in another product. I would hate to cause creeping malaise. (I'm from a C++ world. I introduced an error months ago, and just found out yesterday when we moved to 64 bit.)

              Regards,

              Rick

2011/5/2 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs <[hidden email]>

Not cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-05-02, at 22:58, "McNeil, Andrew" <[hidden email]> wrote:

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards

Andrew

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

            Regards,

            Rick

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Grinnell, Mark

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s right, there’s nothing ObjectStudio specific about it, and no reason it couldn’t be included in a future version of VW. It was built to replace an older tool that *was* ObjectStudio specific though, and it was finalized too late in the cycle to consider if we should make it part of VisualWorks 7.8.

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Spy is integrated with the ClassBrowser so it works on VW and ObjectStudio. It was originally an ObjectStudio tool but now it works on both Smalltalks.

Op 3/05/2011 12:56, James Robertson schreef:

That depends. If it has a UI built win ObjectStudio, then the UI won't work in VW. The underlying domain model may or may not work, depending on how tightly tied to OS it is.

On May 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Rick Hedin wrote:

Regards,

Rick

2011/5/2 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs <[hidden email]>

Not cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-05-02, at 22:58, "McNeil, Andrew" <[hidden email]> wrote:

You will have to install ObjectStudio to find the parcel though… (in C:\Program Files\Cincom\ObjectStudio8.3\ObjectStudio\parcels\contributed by default).

Jun also has some sort of MessageSpy though I am not familiar with what it does.

Regards
Andrew

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

That’s not quite true, I see VisualWorks as a tag as well, plus the following,

Where is the spy output?

Output is written to the transcript. Look at the transcript window for Cincom® ObjectStudio® and the launcher window for Cincom® VisualWorks®.

There’s no reason this needs to be ObjectStudio specific, looks like simply a user-friendly tool built on top of existing Method Wrappers.

-Boris

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Well, you have to look carefully, but at the very bottom of that post they tag it as ObjectStudio - it's not a VW tool

On May 2, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rick Hedin wrote:

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/
It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick
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Terry Raymond

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

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How is this tool different than using a watchpoint, other than the

trace being sent to the transcript?

Terry

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Subject: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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Federico.Balaguer

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

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We had implemented a tool like this -at the VisualWorks7.3 time frame-
with a fellow UIUC student (under the direction of Ralph Johnson) it
was called Tracer.

I used it to create execution trees starting from a message sent.
Execution trees contain information about message sent and variable
accesses. It handled child process creation as well. The execution
trees were used to detect data race conditions and to check source
code heuristics.

Last time I checked Tracer did not work as expected in VW 7.6 or
7.7... I think the public repository has an early version of Tracer.

I can share the source code to whom is interested or even help to make
it work again.

Federico

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Rick Hedin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:
>
> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/
> It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a
> mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick
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Grinnell, Mark

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

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It’s probably very similar to class probes. From a historical point of view this spy tool is the evolution of something different that was written in ObjectStudio, before ObjectStudio ran on a VisualWorks base. The Spy tool does allow you to choose to trace only messages sent to individual instances, as well as to all instances of a given class, I don’t know if there is a mechanism for that in VW 7.8.

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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

How is this tool different than using a watchpoint, other than the

trace being sent to the transcript?

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Hedin
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Subject: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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Terry Raymond

Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

Watchpoints are a kind of “probe”. Every probe has a conditional

expression that can be used to filter specific instances.

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Terry Raymond
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Subject: Re: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

How is this tool different than using a watchpoint, other than the

trace being sent to the transcript?

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Hedin
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:19 PM
To: vwnc NC
Subject: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

Regards,

Rick

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Re: Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

I installed ObjectStudio, and loaded the parcel. Seems to work well.

Regards, Rick

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Terry Raymond <[hidden email]> wrote:

Watchpoints are a kind of “probe”. Every probe has a conditional

expression that can be used to filter specific instances.

Terry

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It’s probably very similar to class probes. From a historical point of view this spy tool is the evolution of something different that was written in ObjectStudio, before ObjectStudio ran on a VisualWorks base. The Spy tool does allow you to choose to trace only messages sent to individual instances, as well as to all instances of a given class, I don’t know if there is a mechanism for that in VW 7.8.

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How is this tool different than using a watchpoint, other than the

trace being sent to the transcript?

Terry

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Hedin
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Subject: [vwnc] Wonderful exploration tool -- spy

This seems like a wondeful way to find out what's going on:

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/11/introducing-new-cincom-smalltalk-spy-tool/

It seems to be implied it will be part of VisualWorks 7.8, but I don't see a mention of "Spy" in the 7.8 release document. Is this feature available?

            Regards,

            Rick

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