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Clément Béra

Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

Hi Thierry, hi all,

The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.

In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.

I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I cannot see any fix related to the version number ?

Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release of Pharo 6 please ?

Thank you very much.

Clement

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

Hi Clément

> On Jun 20, 2017, at 6:10 AM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Thierry, hi all,
>
> The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.
>
> In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.

That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.

>
> I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I cannot see any fix related to the version number ?
>
> Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release of Pharo 6 please ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Clement

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

In reply to this post by Clément Béra

Hell,

I think the newest VM already has a fix to work like before, so no change the OSProcess is needed:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20156/OSPlatform-current-returns-a-MacOSPlatform-instead-of-a-MacOSXPlatform-on-macOS-Sierra

On 20 Jun 2017, at 15:10, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Thierry, hi all,

The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.

In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.

I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I cannot see any fix related to the version number ?

Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release of Pharo 6 please ?

Thank you very much.

Clement

CyrilFerlicot

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

In reply to this post by Eliot Miranda-2

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Clément
>
>
> That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.
>

Hi!

The problem is that the stable vm does not have the fix and the
current latest vm is **reeeeeeeeally* slow. It happens at least on
OSX. I don't know if it is a known problem or if it comes from the
opensmalltalk build or the pharo build.

I got the VM here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Clément Béra

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

Ok.

Maybe when things are fixed we should update the Pharo 6 release version (the one-click) to have a version with OSProcess working.

Cyril the production Pharo VM are now generated from opensmalltalk-vm. There is no separate Pharo build. Just saying to avoid fireworks.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Clément
>
>
> That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.
>

Hi!

The problem is that the stable vm does not have the fix and the
current latest vm is **reeeeeeeeally* slow. It happens at least on
OSX. I don't know if it is a known problem or if it comes from the
opensmalltalk build or the pharo build.

I got the VM here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

In reply to this post by CyrilFerlicot

Hi Cyril,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Clément
>
>
> That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.
>

Hi!

The problem is that the stable vm does not have the fix and the
current latest vm is **reeeeeeeeally* slow. It happens at least on
OSX.

Can you say more? I'm noticing slow start up on the latest VMs but once it is running I see no issue. What specifically is running slowly for you?

I don't know if it is a known problem or if it comes from the
opensmalltalk build or the pharo build.

I got the VM here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

_,,,^..^,,,_

best, Eliot

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

Hi Eliot,

I experience the same slowness as Cyril.

Latest Pharo's UI is completely unresponsive and it takes seconds to open new windows, resizing is a nightmare.

I made two videos comparing latest and stable VMs. I used 32bit Pharo-60501 on OSX Sierra 10.12.5.

Pharo-VMLatest.mov

Pharo-VMStable.mov

Cheers,

Alex

On 20 June 2017 at 19:14, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Cyril,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Clément
>
>
> That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.
>

Hi!

The problem is that the stable vm does not have the fix and the
current latest vm is **reeeeeeeeally* slow. It happens at least on
OSX.

Can you say more? I'm noticing slow start up on the latest VMs but once it is running I see no issue. What specifically is running slowly for you?

I don't know if it is a known problem or if it comes from the
opensmalltalk build or the pharo build.

I got the VM here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

--
_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

The problem is that stable VM crashes every 10min when I type (the same problem as Doru has) and latest is slooooow.

My current crash.dmp is already 934 KB while single typing related crash produces 8 KB of output. It means that Pharo crashed > 100 times!

On 20 June 2017 at 19:26, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Eliot,

I experience the same slowness as Cyril.
Latest Pharo's UI is completely unresponsive and it takes seconds to open new windows, resizing is a nightmare.

I made two videos comparing latest and stable VMs. I used 32bit Pharo-60501 on OSX Sierra 10.12.5.

Pharo-VMLatest.mov

Pharo-VMStable.mov

Cheers,
Alex

On 20 June 2017 at 19:14, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Cyril,

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Clément
>
>
> That was a mistake of mine. In the current VM it now answers e.g. 1011.6 and so things should be working again.
>

Hi!

The problem is that the stable vm does not have the fix and the
current latest vm is **reeeeeeeeally* slow. It happens at least on
OSX.

Can you say more? I'm noticing slow start up on the latest VMs but once it is running I see no issue. What specifically is running slowly for you?

I don't know if it is a known problem or if it comes from the
opensmalltalk build or the pharo build.

I got the VM here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/

--
Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

http://www.synectique.eu
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

--
_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot

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Stephane Ducasse-3

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

In reply to this post by Clément Béra

Clement why you cannot load OSSubprocess?

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Thierry, hi all,
>
> The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release
> and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load
> OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.
>
> In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os
> version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the
> version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.
>
> I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last
> version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I
> cannot see any fix related to the version number ?
>
> Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that
> it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an
> OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release
> of Pharo 6 please ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Clement

Clément Béra

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

Clement why you cannot load OSSubprocess?

1) project has to work on itimer Linux VM.

2) existing project working with OSProcess and I don't want to spend time migrating.

3) code base has to work at least in Squeak and Pharo, I don't want to add extra code so it uses different frameworks in different platforms and then maintain this extra code.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Thierry, hi all,
>
> The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release
> and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load
> OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.
>
> In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os
> version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the
> version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.
>
> I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last
> version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I
> cannot see any fix related to the version number ?
>
> Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that
> it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an
> OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release
> of Pharo 6 please ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Clement

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

Hi Eliot,

I confirm that OSX performance issue is fixed in latest VM (http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/pharo-mac-i386-201706280928-1bd79a7.zip).

Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

Alex

On 22 June 2017 at 08:39, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Clement why you cannot load OSSubprocess?

1) project has to work on itimer Linux VM.
2) existing project working with OSProcess and I don't want to spend time migrating.
3) code base has to work at least in Squeak and Pharo, I don't want to add extra code so it uses different frameworks in different platforms and then maintain this extra code.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Thierry, hi all,
>
> The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release
> and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load
> OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.
>
> In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os
> version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the
> version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.
>
> I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last
> version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I
> cannot see any fix related to the version number ?
>
> Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that
> it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an
> OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release
> of Pharo 6 please ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Clement

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: Working OSProcess configuration for Pharo 6 release (please)

But now OSX latest VM (http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/pharo-mac-i386-201706280928-1bd79a7.zip) crashes when trying to load a project using Iceberg without crash.dmp. I only get the following in terminal:

Pharo(4280,0xa6f3b1c0) malloc: *** error for object 0x8416a314: incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed. *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug

I tested with both 60501 and 60503 images to prove that it is a VM problem, because it works well with 60501 and Stable :)

Maybe it is somehow related to the new version of libgit in the latest vm...

Cheers,

Alex

On 28 June 2017 at 18:26, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Eliot,

I confirm that OSX performance issue is fixed in latest VM (http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/mac/pharo-mac-i386-201706280928-1bd79a7.zip).
Thanks a lot!

Cheers,
Alex

On 22 June 2017 at 08:39, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Clement why you cannot load OSSubprocess?

1) project has to work on itimer Linux VM.
2) existing project working with OSProcess and I don't want to spend time migrating.
3) code base has to work at least in Squeak and Pharo, I don't want to add extra code so it uses different frameworks in different platforms and then maintain this extra code.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Clément Bera <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Thierry, hi all,
>
> The Pharo catalog version of OSProcess is not working in the Pharo 6 release
> and I need to load OSProcess in one of my projects. I cannot load
> OSSubProcess instead, so no need to answer this mail talking about it.
>
> In-between version 2231 and 2241 of VMMaker, the vm parameter 1002 (os
> version), has changed on Mac from '1011.6' to '10.11.6'. OSProcess tests the
> version number against 1000, and should now test against 10.
>
> I checked the SqueakSource repo of OSProcess, I can see that the last
> version is 4.6.8 and the catalog configuration loads an older version, but I
> cannot see any fix related to the version number ?
>
> Can someone update the OSProcess configuration in the Pharo catalog so that
> it loads a working version in the Pharo 6 release or point me to an
> OSProcess configuration, outside of the catalog, which works in the release
> of Pharo 6 please ?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Clement