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Dear Pharoers
last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we plan to do. Simple, easy. Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. We want to do the same with pharo. Often this is not that we are not doing things. Often we are doing boring, tedious stupid but $^%&&*^ important tasks and we want that you know it. In addition we want to share on what we are weekly working. So that you can be more engaged to join and collaborate with us. So we will launch an experience and see. For now we will send a notification every two weeks. the Pharo Team |
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I guess the test email I just triggered is busy braving the snow & blizzard outside… On 12 March 2013 16:02, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Dear Pharoers Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet |
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Dear Pharoers > > last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. > I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. > So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. > > For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we > plan to do. Simple, easy. > Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a have a description somewhere how it works ? This is similar to a standup meeting ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ |
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very nice it gets my official stamp of approval!
On 2013-03-12, at 16:13, Damien Pollet <[hidden email]> wrote: > I guess the test email I just triggered is busy braving the snow & blizzard > outside… > > > On 12 March 2013 16:02, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear Pharoers >> >> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was >> not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are >> working hard to build a better system. >> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas >> that what we do for our research team. >> >> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to >> say to the others what we did and what we >> plan to do. Simple, easy. >> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. >> >> We want to do the same with pharo. >> Often this is not that we are not doing things. Often we are doing boring, >> tedious stupid but $^%&&*^ important tasks and we want that you know it. >> In addition we want to share on what we are weekly working. So that you >> can be more engaged to >> join and collaborate with us. >> >> So we will launch an experience and see. For now we will send a >> notification every two weeks. >> >> the Pharo Team >> > > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet |
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I just sent my list of issues as an example... yes, is some kind like a remote-standup meeting.
Esteban On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Dear Pharoers >> >> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. >> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. >> >> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we >> plan to do. Simple, easy. >> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. > > It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a > have a description somewhere how it works ? > This is similar to a standup meeting ? > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > |
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A bad consultant with good marketing beats a good consultant with bad marketing.
Looks like it works for a lot of things in life, light being faster than sound. (Oh, shiny!) "(S)he looked nice until (s)he opened his/her mouth". Phil 2013/3/12 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Dear Pharoers >> >> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. >> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. >> >> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we >> plan to do. Simple, easy. >> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. > > It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a > have a description somewhere how it works ? > This is similar to a standup meeting ? > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > |
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On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Dear Pharoers >> >> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. >> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. >> >> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we >> plan to do. Simple, easy. >> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. > > It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a > have a description somewhere how it works ? > This is similar to a standup meeting ? we tried but a stand up meeting failed with us. So we just have a mail what you have done what you will do Stfe > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > |
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, stephane ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Dear Pharoers >>> >>> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >>> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. >>> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. >>> >>> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we >>> plan to do. Simple, easy. >>> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. >> >> It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a >> have a description somewhere how it works ? >> This is similar to a standup meeting ? > > we tried but a stand up meeting failed with us. > So we just have a mail > what you have done > what you will do I would like to adopt such habits in my team, but standup meeting for research team is not really convenient. There is a paper where SCRUM is adapted to research team needs: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~mwh/papers/score.pdf There is a business doing something like standup meeting by email here: https://www.funscrum.com/ Apparently all the answers are summarized automatically. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ |
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Old stuff of mine (10 years old oh my!) but still works:
http://highoctane.be/articles/TeamManagementTeammeeting.html http://highoctane.be/articles/fog0000000032.html (Team Tracking) %s/CVS/Source Control/g %s/MSN/IM/g There is even a mention of the original SCRUM stuff: (1997!!!) http://jeffsutherland.org/scrum/scrum_pattern.html (For the fun & trivia, the fogxxxx name comes from FogCreek's CitiDesk CMS - Pharo is using FogBugz, looks like there is something in the fabric of the universe...) Phil 2013/3/12 Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, stephane ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Dear Pharoers >>>> >>>> last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. >>>> I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. >>>> So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. >>>> >>>> For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we >>>> plan to do. Simple, easy. >>>> Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. >>> >>> It looks like quite an interesting idea in a research team. Do you a >>> have a description somewhere how it works ? >>> This is similar to a standup meeting ? >> >> we tried but a stand up meeting failed with us. >> So we just have a mail >> what you have done >> what you will do > > I would like to adopt such habits in my team, but standup meeting for > research team is not really convenient. > There is a paper where SCRUM is adapted to research team needs: > http://www.cs.umd.edu/~mwh/papers/score.pdf > > There is a business doing something like standup meeting by email here: > https://www.funscrum.com/ > Apparently all the answers are summarized automatically. > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > |
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that's great! Another missing piece of the infrastructure!
Nobert Am 12.03.2013 um 16:02 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>: > Dear Pharoers > > last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling what we were doing. > I got quite frustrated by that situation, especially because we are working hard to build a better system. > So we brainstormed when I came back and we want to apply the same ideas that what we do for our research team. > > For our research team every monday we get a simple mail that tell us to say to the others what we did and what we > plan to do. Simple, easy. > Then after people of the rmod team can discuss if they want more. > > We want to do the same with pharo. > Often this is not that we are not doing things. Often we are doing boring, tedious stupid but $^%&&*^ important tasks and we want that you know it. > In addition we want to share on what we are weekly working. So that you can be more engaged to > join and collaborate with us. > > So we will launch an experience and see. For now we will send a notification every two weeks. > > the Pharo Team |
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