amber create command (Re: Problem with grunt-init (was: Re: [amber-lang] Re: amber-kickstart))

> We have the issue No 658
> https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/658
>
> amber cli should have command 'create' that creates template of a new
> project
>
>
> The implementation could be done either with
> a)
>     grunt-init amber myPackage
>
>
> or an amber CLI command
>
> b)
>    amber create myPackage
>
> I prefer actually b) but as for now it seems that the implementation
> of a) is not all that far away ....   :)
>
> What do you think? Do we need both in the end? Probably not?
>
> --Hannes
>
> P.S. Is this issue related to
> AmberCli: write package command?
> https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/673
> ?
>
> On 4/11/14, Herby Vojčík <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> This seems to be a serious show-stopper to me. Should we rely on
>> grunt-init when it first need to perform npm install grunt in the
>> project directory?
>>
>> IT seems it's defying logic of it, as it should be initializing the
>> project... Manfred, do we do something wrong?
>>
>> Herby
>>
>> paul wrote:
>>> Hey Hannes,
>>> I encountered the same and read
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13925916/fatal-error-unable-to-find-local-grunt
>>> installing grunt locally in the project by running "npm install grunt"
>>> seems to have solved the problem.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2014 17:16:12 UTC+2 schrieb Hannes:
>>>
>>>     Manfred,
>>>
>>>     I have started here
>>>
>>>     https://github.com/hhzl/grunt-init-amber/blob/master/README.md
>>>     <https://github.com/hhzl/grunt-init-amber/blob/master/README.md>
>>>
>>>     I installed http://gruntjs.com/project-scaffolding
>>>     <http://gruntjs.com/project-scaffolding> (grunt-init) and
>>>     followed the instructions
>>>
>>>     But then after
>>>
>>>     mkdir myamberproject
>>>     cd myamberproject
>>>     bower install amber --save
>>>     grunt init amber
>>>
>>>
>>>     Then I get the following
>>>     <errorMessage>
>>>     grunt-cli: The grunt command line interface. (v0.1.13)
>>>
>>>     Fatal error: Unable to find local grunt.
>>>
>>>     If you're seeing this message, either a Gruntfile wasn't found or
>>> grunt
>>>     hasn't been installed locally to your project. For more information
>>>     about
>>>     installing and configuring grunt, please see the Getting Started
>>> guide:
>>>
>>>     http://gruntjs.com/getting-started
>>> <http://gruntjs.com/getting-started>
>>>     </errorMessage>
>>>
>>>     I have installed grunt-cli in addition.
>>>
>>>     What I did is here
>>>     https://github.com/hhzl/grunt-init-amber/blob/master/README.md
>>>     <https://github.com/hhzl/grunt-init-amber/blob/master/README.md>
>>>
>>>     What am I missing?
>>>
>>>     --Hannes
>>>
>>>     On 4/10/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>      > Philippe, Nicolas and Manfred
>>>      >
>>>      > I have forked Philippe's 'amber-kickstart' and made it simpler (
>>>      >
>>>      > - only one index.html
>>>      > - renamed 'SamplePackage' to 'MyPackage'.
>>>      > - Added button which brings up the 'Counter'.
>>>      > - Unfortunately the old IDE does not work anymore. But Helios
>>> does.
>>>      >
>>>      > https://github.com/hhzl/amber-kickstart
>>>     <https://github.com/hhzl/amber-kickstart>
>>>      >
>>>      > Armed with the insight gained this exercise I now move on to
>>> update
>>>      >
>>>      > https://github.com/mkroehnert/grunt-init-amber
>>>     <https://github.com/mkroehnert/grunt-init-amber>
>>>      >
>>>      >
>>>      > The grunt-init-amber approach will have the following advantages
>>>      >
>>>      > - It allows for parametrization of the package name
>>>      > - When added to amber there is no need to download an additional
>>>     project.
>>>      >
>>>      > --Hannes
>>>      >
>>>      > On 4/10/14, [hidden email] <javascript:>
>>>     <[hidden email] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>      >> Yes
>>>      >>
>>>      >> On Thursday, April 10, 2014, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]
>>>     <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>      >>
>>>      >>> On 4/5/14, [hidden email] <javascript:> <javascript:;>
>>>      >>> <[hidden email] <javascript:><javascript:;>>
>>>      >>> wrote:
>>>      >>> > In order to help getting things work faster, I make
>>>     amber-kickstart.
>>>      >>> >
>>>      >>> > *https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart
>>>     <https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart>
>>>      >>> > <https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart
>>>     <https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart>>*
>>>      >>> >
>>>      >>> > *Next would be to have a nicer bower json thing in there.*
>>>      >>> >
>>>      >>> > *But what was biting me the most what the the IDE wouldn't
>>>     load if the
>>>      >>> > package was required and empty. Bummer but can be a
>>>     showstopper for a
>>>      >>> > couple of people.*
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> I assume you created
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart/blob/master/template/st/SamplePackage.st
>>>
>>> <https://github.com/philippeback/amber-kickstart/blob/master/template/st/SamplePackage.st>
>>>
>>>      >>> manually to work around this?
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> --Hannes
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> > *Phil*
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> P.S. This applies to the released version 0.12.3, correct?
>>>      >>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/milestones?state=closed
>>>
>>> <https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/milestones?state=closed>
>>>
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