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Perhaps this is of interest to someone. I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced by annotations in a Java system: http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation The goal of the visualization is twofold: - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another layer of complexity At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as well. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I forgot to mention that I used the MOGraphVizLayout that makes use of Graphviz through the command line. You would also need the MondrianGraphVizLayout package. Cheers, Doru On 8 May 2010, at 17:51, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Perhaps this is of interest to someone. > > I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced > by annotations in a Java system: > http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation > > The goal of the visualization is twofold: > - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this > occasion get an idea of what technologies are used > - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another layer > of complexity > > At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be > interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as > well. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing > the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. Are you
using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability that you cannot use Mondrian? Just wondering. Cheers, Alexandre On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Perhaps this is of interest to someone. > > I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced > by annotations in a Java system: > http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation > > The goal of the visualization is twofold: > - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this > occasion get an idea of what technologies are used > - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another layer > of complexity > > At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be > interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as > well. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing > the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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All pictures from the book are provided in full resolution. So, if you download them, you get to see details. I am using Mondrian, only the layout is using GraphViz. It is quite fast even if it goes via the OSProcess and files. I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute even for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? Cheers, Doru On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. Are > you using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability that > you cannot use Mondrian? > > Just wondering. > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >> >> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced >> by annotations in a Java system: >> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >> >> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this >> occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another >> layer of complexity >> >> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be >> interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as >> well. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "We are all great at making mistakes." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute even
> for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. Ok, this is what I wanted to know. > Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? Not yet unfortunately... Alexandre > > > On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. Are >> you using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability that >> you cannot use Mondrian? >> >> Just wondering. >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >>> >>> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced >>> by annotations in a Java system: >>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>> >>> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >>> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with >>> this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >>> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another >>> layer of complexity >>> >>> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be >>> interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as >>> well. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >>> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "We are all great at making mistakes." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I have seen SpringLayout and ForceBasedLayout. What's the difference. Also ForceBasedLayout seems to be bugged now. On 10 mai 2010, at 17:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute even for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. > > Ok, this is what I wanted to know. > >> Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? > > Not yet unfortunately... > > Alexandre > >> >> >> On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. Are you using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability that you cannot use Mondrian? >>> >>> Just wondering. >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >>>> >>>> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced by annotations in a Java system: >>>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>>> >>>> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >>>> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >>>> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another layer of complexity >>>> >>>> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as well. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >>>> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "We are all great at making mistakes." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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ForceBasedLayout is the old implementation.
What do you mean by bugged? Doru On 10 May 2010, at 17:54, Simon Denier wrote: > > I have seen SpringLayout and ForceBasedLayout. What's the > difference. Also ForceBasedLayout seems to be bugged now. > > > > On 10 mai 2010, at 17:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute >>> even for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. >> >> Ok, this is what I wanted to know. >> >>> Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? >> >> Not yet unfortunately... >> >> Alexandre >> >>> >>> >>> On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. >>>> Are you using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability >>>> that you cannot use Mondrian? >>>> >>>> Just wondering. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >>>>> >>>>> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies >>>>> introduced by annotations in a Java system: >>>>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>>>> >>>>> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >>>>> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with >>>>> this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >>>>> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another >>>>> layer of complexity >>>>> >>>>> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be >>>>> interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk >>>>> as well. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >>>>> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On 10 mai 2010, at 18:00, Tudor Girba wrote: > ForceBasedLayout is the old implementation. > > What do you mean by bugged? I had an error when using it. > > Doru > > > On 10 May 2010, at 17:54, Simon Denier wrote: > >> >> I have seen SpringLayout and ForceBasedLayout. What's the difference. Also ForceBasedLayout seems to be bugged now. >> >> >> >> On 10 mai 2010, at 17:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute even for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. >>> >>> Ok, this is what I wanted to know. >>> >>>> Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? >>> >>> Not yet unfortunately... >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. Are you using a force based layout? Is it because of scalability that you cannot use Mondrian? >>>>> >>>>> Just wondering. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >>>>>> >>>>>> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies introduced by annotations in a Java system: >>>>>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>>>>> >>>>>> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >>>>>> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >>>>>> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another layer of complexity >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would be interesting to populate the Annotation entities from Smalltalk as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >>>>>> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> Simon >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Strange. Could you send the graph around?
Here is one that works: view := MOViewRenderer new. view nodes: (1 to: 100). view edges: (1 to: 100) from: [:x | x // 10] to: #yourself. view nodes: (100 to: 200). view edges: (100 to: 200) from: [:x | (x // 10) + 100 ] to: #yourself. view forceBasedLayout. view open. Cheers, Doru On 10 May 2010, at 18:08, Simon Denier wrote: > > On 10 mai 2010, at 18:00, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> ForceBasedLayout is the old implementation. >> >> What do you mean by bugged? > > > I had an error when using it. > > >> >> Doru >> >> >> On 10 May 2010, at 17:54, Simon Denier wrote: >> >>> >>> I have seen SpringLayout and ForceBasedLayout. What's the >>> difference. Also ForceBasedLayout seems to be bugged now. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10 mai 2010, at 17:42, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>>> I tried to use MOSpringLayout, but it takes too long to compute >>>>> even for smaller graphs and the results are not satisfactory. >>>> >>>> Ok, this is what I wanted to know. >>>> >>>>> Actually, do you have an example where you use it with success? >>>> >>>> Not yet unfortunately... >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10 May 2010, at 15:34, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Why GraphViz? It is a bit hard to see the picture in the book. >>>>>> Are you using a force based layout? Is it because of >>>>>> scalability that you cannot use Mondrian? >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wondering. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 May 2010, at 11:51, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps this is of interest to someone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I produced a new visualization to show the dependencies >>>>>>> introduced by annotations in a Java system: >>>>>>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The goal of the visualization is twofold: >>>>>>> - help identify which annotations are closer together and with >>>>>>> this occasion get an idea of what technologies are used >>>>>>> - make explicit the fact that annotations do introduce another >>>>>>> layer of complexity >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the moment, this works for Java systems. Perhaps it would >>>>>>> be interesting to populate the Annotation entities from >>>>>>> Smalltalk as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing >>>>>>> the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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