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Peter Uhnak

brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Hi,

I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-coming-to-you/

however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize)

What should I load?

Thanks,

Peter

Tudor Girba-2

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

I think this should do it:

Gofer it

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc';

configurationOf: 'Bloc';

loadDevelopment.

Gofer new

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick';

package: 'Brick-Core';

package: 'Brick-Scrollpane';

package: 'Brick-List';

load.

ConfigurationOfTxText loadDevelopment.

Cheers,

Doru

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-coming-to-you/

however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize)

What should I load?

Thanks,
Peter

www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FILOStack

Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Hi,

Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :)

Yes, better to use a queue - thanks!

Cheers,
Alex

On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FILOStack

Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Should work now, just update using Doru's script :)

Cheers,

Alex

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :)

Yes, better to use a queue - thanks!

Cheers,
Alex

On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FILOStack

Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

Peter Uhnak

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space?

>> FILOStack

> Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
> A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

queue is FIFO (first in, first out)

FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom).

Peter

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Should work now, just update using Doru's script :)

Cheers,
Alex

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :)

Yes, better to use a queue - thanks!

Cheers,
Alex

On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FILOStack

Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

Aliaksei Syrel

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space?

Because it's Bloc, a complete replacement for morphic - with its own spaces/managers/event fetcher and everything else. Also, it's complete vector based :)

Alain Plantec will present it at ESUG, I suppose.

Cheers,

Alex

stepharo

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

Bloc is a ***real*** Morph new kernel. Now we are lucky because it is powerful enough so that
we can render morphic morph inside itself. But Bloc has a new architecture rendering, event loop, and many more.

Stef

Le 1/6/15 08:09, Peter Uhnák a écrit :

Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space?

>> FILOStack

> Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
> A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

queue is FIFO (first in, first out)

FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom).

Peter

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Should work now, just update using Doru's script :)

Cheers,
Alex

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :)

Yes, better to use a queue - thanks!

Cheers,
Alex

On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FILOStack

Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

> On 01 Jun 2015, at 08:09, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, it seems to work now. I also had to switch to newly created "bloc" space. Why is that required? Why it wouldn't work also from "regular" Pharo space?
>
> >> FILOStack
>
> > Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
> > A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?
>
> queue is FIFO (first in, first out)

Right ;-)

> FILO technically should be the same as LIFO, only I have never heard someone say it in that order (since the top of the stack is the important bit, not the bottom).

Well, it was confusing ...

> Peter
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Should work now, just update using Doru's script :)
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Aliaksei Syrel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Oops, this kind of stack is from moose and not in pharo :)
>
> Yes, better to use a queue - thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> On Jun 1, 2015 7:32 AM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On 31 May 2015, at 23:15, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > FILOStack
>
> Just wondering, isn't this a contradiction in terms ?
> A stack is by definition LIFO, a FILO structure is normally called a queue, no ?
>
>

Peter Kenny

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Maybe a FILOStack has lots of very thin layers? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filo)

Best wishes

Peter Kenny

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stepharo

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

In reply to this post by Tudor Girba-2

Doru

can you give me access to the repo of brick because I'm writing a configuration and a CI?

Stef

Le 1/6/15 07:28, Tudor Girba a écrit :

I think this should do it:

Gofer it

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc';

configurationOf: 'Bloc';

loadDevelopment.

Gofer new

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick';

package: 'Brick-Core';

package: 'Brick-Scrollpane';

package: 'Brick-List';

load.

ConfigurationOfTxText loadDevelopment.

Cheers,

Doru

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-coming-to-you/

however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize)

What should I load?

Thanks,

Peter

--

www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

Tudor Girba-2

Re: brick/bloc examples missing FILOStack

Both Brick and Bloc are in the Pharo repository. I think you have some rights there :)

MCHttpRepository

location: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Brick/main'

user: ''

password: ''

Doru

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:08 AM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:

Doru

can you give me access to the repo of brick because I'm writing a configuration and a CI?

Stef

Le 1/6/15 07:28, Tudor Girba a écrit :

I think this should do it:

Gofer it

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Bloc';

configurationOf: 'Bloc';

loadDevelopment.

Gofer new

smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick';

package: 'Brick-Core';

package: 'Brick-Scrollpane';

package: 'Brick-List';

load.

ConfigurationOfTxText loadDevelopment.

Cheers,

Doru

On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to try new brick/bloc thing https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/future-new-widget-sets-is-coming-to-you/

however after loading (in Pharo 5.0) it is complaining about missing FILOStack (in BlBrickLayouter>>initialize)

What should I load?

Thanks,

Peter

--

www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"