Some of my friend say he would rather learn c# than Smalltalk. What is c#?
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c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think
it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any problems with c#. "Hwa Jong Oh" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:96djn0$kn4k4$[hidden email]... > Some of my friend say he would rather learn c# than Smalltalk. What is c#? > > Hwa Jong Oh > > |
In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, "Donald MacQueen"
<[hidden email]> wrote: > c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think > it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any > problems with c#. > > "Hwa Jong Oh" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > news:96djn0$kn4k4$[hidden email]... > > Some of my friend say he would rather learn c# than Smalltalk. What is > > c#? > > > > Hwa Jong Oh I don't believe "cross-platform" was ever promised... just all Windows platforms. -- <http://homepage.mac.com/keithray/resume.html> |
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In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, [hidden email] says...
||| c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think ||| it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any ||| problems with c#. According to MS, it's not Java. But in reality, I think it is their answer to Java. I am actually going to a .5 day dog and pony show about it next Tuesday so I'll report back what I learn if anyone is interested. What I've read about it so far actually looks promising. Not the least of which is the fact that, like ST, everything is an object. None of this stupid primitive vs. object crap like I have to deal with every day in Java. Other things too, but if anyone is interested, I'll summarize when I get back. Joey -- -- Sun Certified Java2 Programmer -- Political Rants: www.joeygibson.com -- My Pocket Smalltalk Stuff: www.joeygibson.com/st -- -- "Do you know what I am doing, Miss Kenton? I am placing my -- mind elsewhere while you chatter away." -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
"Joey Gibson" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:MPG.14f4a700315328a1989691@204.0.78.21... > In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, [hidden email] says... > > ||| c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think > ||| it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any > ||| problems with c#. > > According to MS, it's not Java. But in reality, I think it is their > answer to Java. I am actually going to a .5 day dog and pony show about > it next Tuesday so I'll report back what I learn if anyone is > interested. yes I am > > What I've read about it so far actually looks promising. Not the least > of which is the fact that, like ST, everything is an object. None of > this stupid primitive vs. object crap like I have to deal with every day > in Java. Other things too, but if anyone is interested, I'll summarize > when I get back. > > Joey > > -- > -- Sun Certified Java2 Programmer > -- Political Rants: www.joeygibson.com > -- My Pocket Smalltalk Stuff: www.joeygibson.com/st > -- > -- "Do you know what I am doing, Miss Kenton? I am placing my > -- mind elsewhere while you chatter away." > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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.NET is microsoft's answer to java. c# is a new language similar to java
but only a part of their overall .Net strategy. what is cool about it is that you can subclass from one language to another. so you could subclass a c# class in smalltalk and have interoperability between them. a whole bunch of languages are slated and all of microsofts server products are being readied for this strategy. c#, visualbasic, c++ (in safe mode), eiffel, smalltalk, and java (being done my rational) should all be running in VisualStudio.Net also the "CLR" common language runtime is similar to a virtual machine except that it handles multiple languages which have been translated to a .net assembly type language. then at runtime it uses a just in time compilation technique to run in native machine code. funny thing is they have decided to stick with the .EXE and .DLL extensions except internally they are very different. they will actually store the JIT code into the .exe so the second time it runs much faster. their CLR is different from the java VM in that you can turn off all the type checking. i am hoping .net will breathe new life into smalltalk. here is a link with more than you would ever want to know about it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?URL=/library/dotnet/csspec/vcl rfcsharpspec_Start.htm long live smalltalk ! steve geringer "Joey Gibson" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:MPG.14f4a700315328a1989691@204.0.78.21... > In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, [hidden email] says... > > ||| c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think > ||| it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any > ||| problems with c#. > > According to MS, it's not Java. But in reality, I think it is their > answer to Java. I am actually going to a .5 day dog and pony show about > it next Tuesday so I'll report back what I learn if anyone is > interested. > > What I've read about it so far actually looks promising. Not the least > of which is the fact that, like ST, everything is an object. None of > this stupid primitive vs. object crap like I have to deal with every day > in Java. Other things too, but if anyone is interested, I'll summarize > when I get back. > > Joey > > -- > -- Sun Certified Java2 Programmer > -- Political Rants: www.joeygibson.com > -- My Pocket Smalltalk Stuff: www.joeygibson.com/st > -- > -- "Do you know what I am doing, Miss Kenton? I am placing my > -- mind elsewhere while you chatter away." > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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Joey Gibson <[hidden email]> writes:
>In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, [hidden email] says... > >||| c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think >||| it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any >||| problems with c#. > >According to MS, it's not Java. But in reality, I think it is their >answer to Java. I am actually going to a .5 day dog and pony show about >it next Tuesday so I'll report back what I learn if anyone is >interested. > >What I've read about it so far actually looks promising. Not the least >of which is the fact that, like ST, everything is an object. None of >this stupid primitive vs. object crap like I have to deal with every day >in Java. Other things too, but if anyone is interested, I'll summarize >when I get back. In some ways it looks better designed than Java, but in only minor ways. Unless its cross platform, what is the point? You might as well stick with Java, and get Win32, .Net, Linux, Solaris etc. > >Joey > >-- >-- Sun Certified Java2 Programmer >-- Political Rants: www.joeygibson.com >-- My Pocket Smalltalk Stuff: www.joeygibson.com/st >-- >-- "Do you know what I am doing, Miss Kenton? I am placing my >-- mind elsewhere while you chatter away." > > > >-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Steve Geringer" <[hidden email]> writes:
>their CLR is different from the java VM in that you can turn off all the >type checking. Just my opinion, but this is a seriously frightening idea. >i am hoping .net will breathe new life into smalltalk. > >here is a link with more than you would ever want to know about it: > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?URL=/library/dotnet/csspec/vcl >rfcsharpspec_Start.htm > > >long live smalltalk ! >steve geringer > > >"Joey Gibson" <[hidden email]> wrote in message >news:MPG.14f4a700315328a1989691@204.0.78.21... >> In article <96e328$831$[hidden email]>, [hidden email] says... >> >> ||| c# is microsoft's new cross-platform language. i think >> ||| it is still in beta. learn smalltalk and you won't have any >> ||| problems with c#. >> >> According to MS, it's not Java. But in reality, I think it is their >> answer to Java. I am actually going to a .5 day dog and pony show about >> it next Tuesday so I'll report back what I learn if anyone is >> interested. >> >> What I've read about it so far actually looks promising. Not the least >> of which is the fact that, like ST, everything is an object. None of >> this stupid primitive vs. object crap like I have to deal with every day >> in Java. Other things too, but if anyone is interested, I'll summarize >> when I get back. >> >> Joey >> >> -- >> -- Sun Certified Java2 Programmer >> -- Political Rants: www.joeygibson.com >> -- My Pocket Smalltalk Stuff: www.joeygibson.com/st >> -- >> -- "Do you know what I am doing, Miss Kenton? I am placing my >> -- mind elsewhere while you chatter away." >> >> >> >> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- > > |
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