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cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Siemen Baader
Hi all,

I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only should when content is actually different.

I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?

-- Siemen
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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Stephane Ducasse-3
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.
And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen

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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Siemen Baader
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen


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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Ben Coman


On 13 February 2018 at 01:57, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

One approach would be to start with PharoLauncher to quickly open Images from different builds, to bisect which build changed it, then review the code modified between builds.
cheers -ben

 

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen



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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Siemen Baader
Thanks for the tip!

-- Siemen

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:


On 13 February 2018 at 01:57, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

One approach would be to start with PharoLauncher to quickly open Images from different builds, to bisect which build changed it, then review the code modified between builds.
cheers -ben

 

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen




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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Siemen Baader
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The regression happens between Nautilus-TheIntegrator1352.mcz and Nautilus-TheIntegrator1351.mcz. Pharo 6.0 uses Nautilus-TheIntegrator1366.mcz

I'll look more to find the actual code that breaks.

-- Siemen



On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen



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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Ben Coman
thx for looking into this.  half way there ;)
do you have the Pharo build numbers that match these Nautilus versions?

cheers -ben

On 9 March 2018 at 14:30, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
The regression happens between Nautilus-TheIntegrator1352.mcz and Nautilus-TheIntegrator1351.mcz. Pharo 6.0 uses Nautilus-TheIntegrator1366.mcz

I'll look more to find the actual code that breaks.

-- Siemen




On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen




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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Siemen Baader


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:
thx for looking into this.  half way there ;)
do you have the Pharo build numbers that match these Nautilus versions?

I don't. PharoLauncher didn't work for me, when I try to launch an image I get an exception "MessageNotUnderstood: MacProcess>>waitForCommand:". So I just downloaded images from get.pharo.org and then used Monticello to identify the Nautilus packages versions and bisected in a 6.0 image until I found the version that introduced the bug. Do you need the build numbers? I suppose I can get the builds from
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ ?

cheers,
Siemen
 

cheers -ben

On 9 March 2018 at 14:30, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
The regression happens between Nautilus-TheIntegrator1352.mcz and Nautilus-TheIntegrator1351.mcz. Pharo 6.0 uses Nautilus-TheIntegrator1366.mcz

I'll look more to find the actual code that breaks.

-- Siemen




On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen





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Re: cancel changes in Nautilus broken on 6.1?

Ben Coman


On 10 March 2018 at 00:13, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:02 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:
thx for looking into this.  half way there ;)
do you have the Pharo build numbers that match these Nautilus versions?

I don't. PharoLauncher didn't work for me, when I try to launch an image I get an exception "MessageNotUnderstood: MacProcess>>waitForCommand:". So I just downloaded images from get.pharo.org and then used Monticello to identify the Nautilus packages versions and bisected in a 6.0 image until I found the version that introduced the bug. Do you need the build numbers? I suppose I can get the builds from
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ ?

In Image, go World menu > System > System Reporter.

cheers -ben

 

cheers,
Siemen
 

cheers -ben

On 9 March 2018 at 14:30, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
The regression happens between Nautilus-TheIntegrator1352.mcz and Nautilus-TheIntegrator1351.mcz. Pharo 6.0 uses Nautilus-TheIntegrator1366.mcz

I'll look more to find the actual code that breaks.

-- Siemen




On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stef,

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Siemen

I use often cmd-L too and may be we got a regression.

I'm pretty sure I started doing it after I saw you do it in the MOOC ;)

And indeed I have the same behavior in Pharo 70.
Can you try to see how to address it?

Yes, I can try to look into it. I don't have any clear idea where to start other than browsing Nautilus code and perhaps uses of NautilusChanged, but perhaps it is not that hard to find.

-- Siemen

Stef

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Siemen Baader <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I downloaded Pharo 6.1 for OSX and whenever I revert changes in Nautilus
> with CMD-L, the content is reverted and the orange dirty marker triangle
> disappears. But when I switch to a different method, Nautilus shows the
> 'Content has been modified. What do you want to do?' dialog, as it only
> should when content is actually different.
>
> I use this all the time, I can't imagine I'm the only one, but I couldn't
> find the problem mentioned anywhere. Does anyone else have it? What to do?
>
> -- Siemen