Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code coverage review of the Pharo
image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering how much of the image side code is actually used?
Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal plugins is that I need test cases to actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, even to confirm it gets called.
No doubt from the other side it would be interesting to see from a VM platform perspective if the Smalltalk Sunits actually execute a reasonable set of the slang/objective-c/C code. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com =========================================================================== _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code coverage review of the Pharo > image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering how much of the image side code is > actually used? > > Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal plugins is that I need test cases to > actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, even to confirm it gets called. this would be really interesting indeed. alex is spy working enough to see that? > > No doubt from the other side it would be interesting to see from a VM platform perspective if the > Smalltalk Sunits actually execute a reasonable set of the slang/objective-c/C code. > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Dec 3, 2009, at 7:58 AM, John McIntosh wrote: > Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code coverage review of the Pharo > image in relationship to the suite of available tests? So Stefan Reichart (now at cmsbox.com) did his Master on test-smell detection. (see http://www.jot.fm/issues/issue_2007_10/paper12/ ) Part of this work was a test-coverage tool (this used multiple backends, methodwrappers, bytesurgeon and Persephone AST-interpratation using Philippe Marschall's work). We should really have a look at that again... (but fist we need to get the infrastructure in shape...) Having coverage analysis would help to clean up, too. I think a good part of the code in the image was executed last in 1997 or so... Marcus _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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>> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code
>> coverage review of the Pharo >> image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering >> how much of the image side code is >> actually used? >> >> Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal >> plugins is that I need test cases to >> actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, >> even to confirm it gets called. > > this would be really interesting indeed. > alex is spy working enough to see that? I used Spy on a number of projects, including Moose, Glamour, Mondrian, Seaside, ... But checking it on the whole image is worth trying. Give me a couple of hours... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 2009-12-03, at 7:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code >>> coverage review of the Pharo >>> image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering >>> how much of the image side code is >>> actually used? >>> >>> Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal >>> plugins is that I need test cases to >>> actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, >>> even to confirm it gets called. >> >> this would be really interesting indeed. >> alex is spy working enough to see that? > > I used Spy on a number of projects, including Moose, Glamour, > Mondrian, Seaside, ... > But checking it on the whole image is worth trying. > > Give me a couple of hours... Thank you, allow me to give some clues about what internal plugins are in each macintosh VM (3.x, 4.x) series. ADPCMCodecPlugin_exports, class ADPCMCodec AsynchFilePlugin_exports, class AsynchFile B2DPlugin_exports, class BallonEngine BitBltPlugin_exports, class BitBlt,WarpBlt DSAPrims_exports, class SHA1,SecureHashAlgorithm FFTPlugin_exports, class FFT FilePlugin_exports, class FileDirectory,StandardFileStream FloatArrayPlugin_exports, class BallonBuffer,FloatArray,MatrixTransform2x3 HostWindowPlugin_exports, class HostWindowProxy + subclasses InternetConfigPlugin_exports, class InternetConfiguration JoystickTabletPlugin_exports, class InputEventSensor JPEGReaderPlugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter JPEGReadWriter2Plugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter2 LargeIntegers_exports, Large positive/negative number usage... MacMenubarPlugin_exports, class HostSystemMenus + subclasses Matrix2x3Plugin_exports, class MatrixTransform2x3 MIDIPlugin_exports, class MidiPrimTester,SimpleMIDIPort MiscPrimitivePlugin_exports, class BitMap, ByteArray, ByteString,ByteSymbol,SampledSound SecurityPlugin_exports, class SecurityManager SerialPlugin_exports, class SerialPort SocketPlugin_exports, class NetNameResolver, Socket,SocketAddress SoundCodecPrims_exports, class GSMCodec SoundGenerationPlugin_exports, class FMSound,LoopedSampledSound,PluckedSound,ReverbSound,SampledSound SoundPlugin_exports, class SoundPlayer,SoundRecorder UUIDPlugin_exports, class UUID ZipPlugin_exports, class DeflateStream,FastInflateStream,NSAbstractDeflateStream+subclasses,ZipEncoder, ZipWriteStream These plugins are built in, but not used directly by Pharo 1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4.image B3DAcceleratorPlugin_exports, Requires Ballon 3d http://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html Squeak3D_exports, BMPReadWriterPlugin_exports, Oddly the smalltalk usage of this plugin was deleted by the author. GeniePlugin_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/genie.html Klatt_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/Speech.html RePlugin_exports, I think this is for the http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex.html StarSqueakPlugin_exports, Etoys SurfacePlugin_exports, Internal usage and exploited by various plugins like QuickTime for Sophie -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com =========================================================================== _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
hi John,
I have been working on a code instrumentation mechanism that use the "object as method" trick to get the runtime info. The "hello world" of the test coverage of Spy could be: 1- open a workspace, and doit: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Spy'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfSpy'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSpy) perform: #loadDefault. 2- doit: CoveragePackageSpy viewCoverageForPackagesMatching: 'Mondrian*' 3- after few seconds, a mondrian window will open. Pink inner boxes methods that are not covered by unit tests. The expression above (i)instruments all methods belonging to Mondrian, (ii) run all the test, (iii) open a simple mondrian visualization that tells whether a method is executed or not when running th test. So far, it is good enough for small and controlled experiments. I would to do the coverage for the whole image, but I need some time for this. In 2 weeks I will be in holidays, I will therefore have time to work on this. I also worked on a mechanism to extract type information from SUnit tests. Try: (TypingPackageSpy runTestAndGatherForPackagesMatching: 'Mondrian*') viewBasic Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Dec 2009, at 17:20, John M McIntosh wrote: > > On 2009-12-03, at 7:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>>> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code >>>> coverage review of the Pharo >>>> image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering >>>> how much of the image side code is >>>> actually used? >>>> >>>> Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal >>>> plugins is that I need test cases to >>>> actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, >>>> even to confirm it gets called. >>> >>> this would be really interesting indeed. >>> alex is spy working enough to see that? >> >> I used Spy on a number of projects, including Moose, Glamour, >> Mondrian, Seaside, ... >> But checking it on the whole image is worth trying. >> >> Give me a couple of hours... > > Thank you, allow me to give some clues about what internal plugins > are in each macintosh VM (3.x, 4.x) series. > > > ADPCMCodecPlugin_exports, class ADPCMCodec > AsynchFilePlugin_exports, class AsynchFile > B2DPlugin_exports, class BallonEngine > BitBltPlugin_exports, class BitBlt,WarpBlt > DSAPrims_exports, class SHA1,SecureHashAlgorithm > FFTPlugin_exports, class FFT > FilePlugin_exports, class FileDirectory,StandardFileStream > FloatArrayPlugin_exports, class > BallonBuffer,FloatArray,MatrixTransform2x3 > HostWindowPlugin_exports, class HostWindowProxy + subclasses > InternetConfigPlugin_exports, class InternetConfiguration > JoystickTabletPlugin_exports, class InputEventSensor > JPEGReaderPlugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter > JPEGReadWriter2Plugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter2 > LargeIntegers_exports, Large positive/negative number usage... > MacMenubarPlugin_exports, class HostSystemMenus + subclasses > Matrix2x3Plugin_exports, class MatrixTransform2x3 > MIDIPlugin_exports, class MidiPrimTester,SimpleMIDIPort > MiscPrimitivePlugin_exports, class BitMap, ByteArray, > ByteString,ByteSymbol,SampledSound > SecurityPlugin_exports, class SecurityManager > SerialPlugin_exports, class SerialPort > SocketPlugin_exports, class NetNameResolver, Socket,SocketAddress > SoundCodecPrims_exports, class GSMCodec > SoundGenerationPlugin_exports, class > FMSound,LoopedSampledSound,PluckedSound,ReverbSound,SampledSound > SoundPlugin_exports, class SoundPlayer,SoundRecorder > UUIDPlugin_exports, class UUID > ZipPlugin_exports, class > DeflateStream,FastInflateStream,NSAbstractDeflateStream > +subclasses,ZipEncoder, ZipWriteStream > > > These plugins are built in, but not used directly by Pharo > 1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4.image > > B3DAcceleratorPlugin_exports, Requires Ballon 3d http://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html > Squeak3D_exports, > > BMPReadWriterPlugin_exports, Oddly the smalltalk usage of this > plugin was deleted by the author. > GeniePlugin_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/genie.html > Klatt_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/Speech.html > RePlugin_exports, I think this is for the http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex.html > StarSqueakPlugin_exports, Etoys > SurfacePlugin_exports, Internal usage and exploited by various > plugins like QuickTime for Sophie > -- > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// > www.smalltalkconsulting.com > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
does your spy support spy itself or detect that and does not spy dangerous
guys. Stef On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > hi John, > > I have been working on a code instrumentation mechanism that use the > "object as method" trick to get the runtime info. The "hello world" of > the test coverage of Spy could be: > 1- open a workspace, and doit: > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Spy'; > addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfSpy'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSpy) perform: #loadDefault. > > 2- doit: > CoveragePackageSpy viewCoverageForPackagesMatching: 'Mondrian*' > > 3- after few seconds, a mondrian window will open. Pink inner boxes > methods that are not covered by unit tests. The expression above > (i)instruments all methods belonging to Mondrian, (ii) run all the > test, (iii) open a simple mondrian visualization that tells whether a > method is executed or not when running th test. > > So far, it is good enough for small and controlled experiments. I > would to do the coverage for the whole image, but I need some time for > this. In 2 weeks I will be in holidays, I will therefore have time to > work on this. > > I also worked on a mechanism to extract type information from SUnit > tests. > Try: (TypingPackageSpy runTestAndGatherForPackagesMatching: > 'Mondrian*') viewBasic > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 3 Dec 2009, at 17:20, John M McIntosh wrote: > >> >> On 2009-12-03, at 7:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>>> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a code >>>>> coverage review of the Pharo >>>>> image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I wondering >>>>> how much of the image side code is >>>>> actually used? >>>>> >>>>> Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal >>>>> plugins is that I need test cases to >>>>> actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, >>>>> even to confirm it gets called. >>>> >>>> this would be really interesting indeed. >>>> alex is spy working enough to see that? >>> >>> I used Spy on a number of projects, including Moose, Glamour, >>> Mondrian, Seaside, ... >>> But checking it on the whole image is worth trying. >>> >>> Give me a couple of hours... >> >> Thank you, allow me to give some clues about what internal plugins >> are in each macintosh VM (3.x, 4.x) series. >> >> >> ADPCMCodecPlugin_exports, class ADPCMCodec >> AsynchFilePlugin_exports, class AsynchFile >> B2DPlugin_exports, class BallonEngine >> BitBltPlugin_exports, class BitBlt,WarpBlt >> DSAPrims_exports, class SHA1,SecureHashAlgorithm >> FFTPlugin_exports, class FFT >> FilePlugin_exports, class FileDirectory,StandardFileStream >> FloatArrayPlugin_exports, class >> BallonBuffer,FloatArray,MatrixTransform2x3 >> HostWindowPlugin_exports, class HostWindowProxy + subclasses >> InternetConfigPlugin_exports, class InternetConfiguration >> JoystickTabletPlugin_exports, class InputEventSensor >> JPEGReaderPlugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter >> JPEGReadWriter2Plugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter2 >> LargeIntegers_exports, Large positive/negative number usage... >> MacMenubarPlugin_exports, class HostSystemMenus + subclasses >> Matrix2x3Plugin_exports, class MatrixTransform2x3 >> MIDIPlugin_exports, class MidiPrimTester,SimpleMIDIPort >> MiscPrimitivePlugin_exports, class BitMap, ByteArray, >> ByteString,ByteSymbol,SampledSound >> SecurityPlugin_exports, class SecurityManager >> SerialPlugin_exports, class SerialPort >> SocketPlugin_exports, class NetNameResolver, Socket,SocketAddress >> SoundCodecPrims_exports, class GSMCodec >> SoundGenerationPlugin_exports, class >> FMSound,LoopedSampledSound,PluckedSound,ReverbSound,SampledSound >> SoundPlugin_exports, class SoundPlayer,SoundRecorder >> UUIDPlugin_exports, class UUID >> ZipPlugin_exports, class >> DeflateStream,FastInflateStream,NSAbstractDeflateStream >> +subclasses,ZipEncoder, ZipWriteStream >> >> >> These plugins are built in, but not used directly by Pharo >> 1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4.image >> >> B3DAcceleratorPlugin_exports, Requires Ballon 3d http://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html >> Squeak3D_exports, >> >> BMPReadWriterPlugin_exports, Oddly the smalltalk usage of this >> plugin was deleted by the author. >> GeniePlugin_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/genie.html >> Klatt_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/Speech.html >> RePlugin_exports, I think this is for the http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex.html >> StarSqueakPlugin_exports, Etoys >> SurfacePlugin_exports, Internal usage and exploited by various >> plugins like QuickTime for Sophie >> -- >> = >> = >> = >> = >> = >> ====================================================================== >> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: >> squeaker68882 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// >> www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> = >> = >> = >> = >> = >> ====================================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
> does your spy support spy itself or detect that and does not spy
> dangerous > guys. So far no. I would love to have Reflectivity for this... Cheers, Alexandre > > Stef > > On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> hi John, >> >> I have been working on a code instrumentation mechanism that use the >> "object as method" trick to get the runtime info. The "hello world" >> of >> the test coverage of Spy could be: >> 1- open a workspace, and doit: >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'Spy'; >> addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfSpy'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSpy) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> 2- doit: >> CoveragePackageSpy viewCoverageForPackagesMatching: 'Mondrian*' >> >> 3- after few seconds, a mondrian window will open. Pink inner boxes >> methods that are not covered by unit tests. The expression above >> (i)instruments all methods belonging to Mondrian, (ii) run all the >> test, (iii) open a simple mondrian visualization that tells whether a >> method is executed or not when running th test. >> >> So far, it is good enough for small and controlled experiments. I >> would to do the coverage for the whole image, but I need some time >> for >> this. In 2 weeks I will be in holidays, I will therefore have time to >> work on this. >> >> I also worked on a mechanism to extract type information from SUnit >> tests. >> Try: (TypingPackageSpy runTestAndGatherForPackagesMatching: >> 'Mondrian*') viewBasic >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> On 3 Dec 2009, at 17:20, John M McIntosh wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2009-12-03, at 7:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>>>> Ok as I'm testing this new VM I"m wondering has anyone done a >>>>>> code >>>>>> coverage review of the Pharo >>>>>> image in relationship to the suite of available tests? I >>>>>> wondering >>>>>> how much of the image side code is >>>>>> actually used? >>>>>> >>>>>> Part of the problem here in cross checking the list of internal >>>>>> plugins is that I need test cases to >>>>>> actually exploit the plugin code so that I can confirm it works, >>>>>> even to confirm it gets called. >>>>> >>>>> this would be really interesting indeed. >>>>> alex is spy working enough to see that? >>>> >>>> I used Spy on a number of projects, including Moose, Glamour, >>>> Mondrian, Seaside, ... >>>> But checking it on the whole image is worth trying. >>>> >>>> Give me a couple of hours... >>> >>> Thank you, allow me to give some clues about what internal plugins >>> are in each macintosh VM (3.x, 4.x) series. >>> >>> >>> ADPCMCodecPlugin_exports, class ADPCMCodec >>> AsynchFilePlugin_exports, class AsynchFile >>> B2DPlugin_exports, class BallonEngine >>> BitBltPlugin_exports, class BitBlt,WarpBlt >>> DSAPrims_exports, class SHA1,SecureHashAlgorithm >>> FFTPlugin_exports, class FFT >>> FilePlugin_exports, class FileDirectory,StandardFileStream >>> FloatArrayPlugin_exports, class >>> BallonBuffer,FloatArray,MatrixTransform2x3 >>> HostWindowPlugin_exports, class HostWindowProxy + subclasses >>> InternetConfigPlugin_exports, class InternetConfiguration >>> JoystickTabletPlugin_exports, class InputEventSensor >>> JPEGReaderPlugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter >>> JPEGReadWriter2Plugin_exports, class JPEGReadWriter2 >>> LargeIntegers_exports, Large positive/negative number >>> usage... >>> MacMenubarPlugin_exports, class HostSystemMenus + subclasses >>> Matrix2x3Plugin_exports, class MatrixTransform2x3 >>> MIDIPlugin_exports, class MidiPrimTester,SimpleMIDIPort >>> MiscPrimitivePlugin_exports, class BitMap, ByteArray, >>> ByteString,ByteSymbol,SampledSound >>> SecurityPlugin_exports, class SecurityManager >>> SerialPlugin_exports, class SerialPort >>> SocketPlugin_exports, class NetNameResolver, >>> Socket,SocketAddress >>> SoundCodecPrims_exports, class GSMCodec >>> SoundGenerationPlugin_exports, class >>> FMSound,LoopedSampledSound,PluckedSound,ReverbSound,SampledSound >>> SoundPlugin_exports, class SoundPlayer,SoundRecorder >>> UUIDPlugin_exports, class UUID >>> ZipPlugin_exports, class >>> DeflateStream,FastInflateStream,NSAbstractDeflateStream >>> +subclasses,ZipEncoder, ZipWriteStream >>> >>> >>> These plugins are built in, but not used directly by Pharo >>> 1.0-10496-rc1dev09.11.4.image >>> >>> B3DAcceleratorPlugin_exports, Requires Ballon 3d http://www.squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html >>> Squeak3D_exports, >>> >>> BMPReadWriterPlugin_exports, Oddly the smalltalk usage of this >>> plugin was deleted by the author. >>> GeniePlugin_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/genie.html >>> Klatt_exports, Requires http://www.squeaksource.com/ >>> Speech.html >>> RePlugin_exports, I think this is for the http://www.squeaksource.com/Regex.html >>> StarSqueakPlugin_exports, Etoys >>> SurfacePlugin_exports, Internal usage and exploited by various >>> plugins like QuickTime for Sophie >>> -- >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> ==================================================================== >>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: >>> squeaker68882 >>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// >>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> ==================================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> does your spy support spy itself or detect that and does not spy >> dangerous >> guys. > > So far no. > I would love to have Reflectivity for this... > Yes, will be available, uhm, at some point... Marcus _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
>>> does your spy support spy itself or detect that and does not spy
>>> dangerous >>> guys. >> >> So far no. >> I would love to have Reflectivity for this... >> > > Yes, will be available, uhm, at some point... Let us know, I would love to give a try Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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