cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
 
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Hello, I'm using cogwin/Croquet VM (last version http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2522/) on windows7,
and today I had this probelm: when the size of the pharo image become so large the VM crashes with reason 'out of memory'. The same problem with previous versions of cogwin. Note that I use a PC with 8G of RAM, so it's really damage to have such a problem.
Any idea about another VM working well on Windows and does not have such an issues? Any urgent solution? Thanks, Hani
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Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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From this thread: http://forum.world.st/experience-with-large-images-td4101765.html It seems that on windows the size of the image by default is limited to 500MB in RAM. I don't know if you can change it or not. Linux/Mac is limited to 2GB. Can you try your experiments on a Mac? |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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On 25 January 2012 23:05, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
Unfortunately no, I've not Mac, and the company for which I'll use Moose on their software, Tomorrow morning :(, do not use Mac.
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Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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Hi,
On 25 January 2012 23:12, Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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In reply to this post by Hani Abdeen
I think Igor fixed that for the Windows VM, but such changes were not integerated in Eliot VMs, but rather in the branch of Git.
But since the Jenkins is not building Windows VM, I have no idea where you can get such a VM. Cheers On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]> wrote:
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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In reply to this post by Hani Abdeen
Can you run virtualbox on your windows machine? I have a 32 bit debian linux (vers 6.0.3) virtual disk image (2.5GB RAM, 8GB disk) you coudl use that would let you hit the limit of what Pharo 32 bit can work with. |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
why jenkins is not building the vm windows?
Stef On Jan 25, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > I think Igor fixed that for the Windows VM, but such changes were not integerated in Eliot VMs, but rather in the branch of Git. > But since the Jenkins is not building Windows VM, I have no idea where you can get such a VM. > > Cheers > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > On 25 January 2012 23:05, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hani Abdeen wrote > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm using cogwin/Croquet VM (last version > > http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2522/) on windows7, > > and today I had this probelm: when the size of the pharo image become so > > large the VM crashes with reason 'out of memory'. > > The same problem with previous versions of cogwin. > > Note that I use a PC with 8G of RAM, so it's really damage to have such a > > problem. > > > > Any idea about another VM working well on Windows and does not have such > > an > > issues? > > Any urgent solution? > > > > Thanks, > > Hani > > > > From this thread: > http://forum.world.st/experience-with-large-images-td4101765.html > > It seems that on windows the size of the image by default is limited to > 500MB in RAM. I don't know if you can change it or not. Linux/Mac is > limited to 2GB. Can you try your experiments on a Mac? > > Unfortunately no, I've not Mac, and the company for which I'll use Moose on their software, Tomorrow morning :(, do not use Mac. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/cogwin-Croquet-Win7-Moose-very-large-models-crash-out-of-Memory-tp4328688p4328761.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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In reply to this post by Hani Abdeen
Hani
first import less information for your demo. You probably do not need this and local argument. stef > Hani Abdeen wrote > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm using cogwin/Croquet VM (last version > > http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2522/) on windows7, > > and today I had this probelm: when the size of the pharo image become so > > large the VM crashes with reason 'out of memory'. > > The same problem with previous versions of cogwin. > > Note that I use a PC with 8G of RAM, so it's really damage to have such a > > problem. > > > > Any idea about another VM working well on Windows and does not have such > > an > > issues? > > Any urgent solution? > > > > Thanks, > > Hani > > > > From this thread: > http://forum.world.st/experience-with-large-images-td4101765.html > > It seems that on windows the size of the image by default is limited to > 500MB in RAM. I don't know if you can change it or not. Linux/Mac is > limited to 2GB. Can you try your experiments on a Mac? > > Unfortunately no, I've not Mac, and the company for which I'll use Moose on their software, Tomorrow morning :(, do not use Mac. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/cogwin-Croquet-Win7-Moose-very-large-models-crash-out-of-Memory-tp4328688p4328761.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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Hi Stef,
On 26 January 2012 10:05, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Hani yes I think so, I've also a pre loaded demo java model to demonstrate it
Guillermo told me that he just compiled a VM for windows and he can send it to me to try. may be he did not read my email yet. I'll also see if they have a Linux machine on which we can on the image usign Pharo VM.
Thanks Hani
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Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
On 25 January 2012 23:18, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I think Igor fixed that for the Windows VM, but such changes were not > integerated in Eliot VMs, but rather in the branch of Git. > But since the Jenkins is not building Windows VM, I have no idea where you > can get such a VM. > No, changes are there. But they are not "fixing" the hard limit which is still 512M. They only fixing a strange issue with growing image close to that limit (so 400M (and even less size) images was crashing before even reaching a limit). This is because of miscalculation between requested space and available space, after memory growth. > Cheers > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 25 January 2012 23:05, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hani Abdeen wrote >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > I'm using cogwin/Croquet VM (last version >>> > http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2522/) on windows7, >>> > and today I had this probelm: when the size of the pharo image become >>> > so >>> > large the VM crashes with reason 'out of memory'. >>> > The same problem with previous versions of cogwin. >>> > Note that I use a PC with 8G of RAM, so it's really damage to have such >>> > a >>> > problem. >>> > >>> > Any idea about another VM working well on Windows and does not have >>> > such >>> > an >>> > issues? >>> > Any urgent solution? >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Hani >>> > >>> >>> From this thread: >>> http://forum.world.st/experience-with-large-images-td4101765.html >>> >>> It seems that on windows the size of the image by default is limited to >>> 500MB in RAM. I don't know if you can change it or not. Linux/Mac is >>> limited to 2GB. Can you try your experiments on a Mac? >> >> >> Unfortunately no, I've not Mac, and the company for which I'll use Moose >> on their software, Tomorrow morning :(, do not use Mac. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/cogwin-Croquet-Win7-Moose-very-large-models-crash-out-of-Memory-tp4328688p4328761.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. |
Re: cogwin/Croquet (Win7) + Moose + very large models = crash (out of Memory)
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Well, the define in sqWin32Alloc.h reads
#ifndef MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY #define MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY 512*1024*1024 #endif (albeit guarded by #ifndef NO_VIRTUAL_MEMORY)
so I tried to redefine it in the makefile: VM_DEF=-D'MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY=(2*1024*1024*1024)' ... DEFS:= $(COGDEFS) $(WINVER) $(VM_DEF) -DWIN32 -DWIN32_FILE_SUPPORT -DNO_ISNAN \
-DNO_SERVICE -DNO_STD_FILE_SUPPORT \ $(NDEBUG) -DLSB_FIRST -D'VM_NAME="$(VM_NAME)"' -DX86 $(XDEFS) $(CROQUET) But the resulting VM still wouldn't allocate more than 512M, so it is more complex than I hoped :)
Andreas, if it is a simple job, do you know what's required to experiment with raising the limit on WIndows? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
best, Eliot |
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