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Fabrizio Perin-3
In case you don't know yet:


"D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."

Here nice examples:


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Re: d3 js

Tudor Girba-2
Of course we know it :)

Doru

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
In case you don't know yet:


"D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."

Here nice examples:


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Re: d3 js

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D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.

Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction.

Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported.
Some examples:
http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html

Cheers,
Alexandre


> On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> In case you don't know yet:
>
> http://d3js.org/
>
> "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>
> Here nice examples:
>
> https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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Re: d3 js

Fabrizio Perin-3
Hello,
thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there are some cool ones.

Cheers,
Fabri

2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.

Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with better support for interaction.

Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well, interaction is not well supported.
Some examples:
http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html

Cheers,
Alexandre


> On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> In case you don't know yet:
>
> http://d3js.org/
>
> "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data. D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>
> Here nice examples:
>
> https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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Re: d3 js

Offray
Hi,

Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use
Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a
visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive
visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar
result?

Cheers,

Offray

El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:

> Hello,
> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
> are some cool ones.
>
> Cheers,
> Fabri
>
> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
>      D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>      it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>
>      Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>      better support for interaction.
>
>      Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>      use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>      interaction is not well supported.
>      Some examples:
>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>
>      Cheers,
>      Alexandre
>
>
>       > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>      <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>       >
>       > In case you don't know yet:
>       >
>       > http://d3js.org/
>       >
>       > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>      D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>      web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>      tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>      components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>       >
>       > Here nice examples:
>       >
>       > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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Re: d3 js

Uko2
I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.

Uko

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> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>> Hello,
>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
>> are some cool ones.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Fabri
>>
>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>
>>     D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>>     it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>>
>>     Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>>     better support for interaction.
>>
>>     Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>>     use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>     interaction is not well supported.
>>     Some examples:
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     Alexandre
>>
>>
>>      > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>      >
>>      > In case you don't know yet:
>>      >
>>      > http://d3js.org/
>>      >
>>      > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>>     D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>>     web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>>     tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>>     components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>      >
>>      > Here nice examples:
>>      >
>>      > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
>>     > _______________________________________________
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Re: d3 js

abergel
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We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are doing amazing things with it.
However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of time. But we will get there on some point.

Alexandre


> On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>> Hello,
>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
>> are some cool ones.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Fabri
>>
>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>
>>     D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>>     it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>>
>>     Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>>     better support for interaction.
>>
>>     Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>>     use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>     interaction is not well supported.
>>     Some examples:
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     Alexandre
>>
>>
>>      > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>      >
>>      > In case you don't know yet:
>>      >
>>      > http://d3js.org/
>>      >
>>      > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>>     D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>>     web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>>     tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>>     components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>      >
>>      > Here nice examples:
>>      >
>>      > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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Volkert
Rossal is the best promotion for Pharo 3.0. The better Roassal the more
popular Pharo will be .... i am sure.

But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.

BW,
Volkert


Am 28.11.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:

> We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are doing amazing things with it.
> However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of time. But we will get there on some point.
>
> Alexandre
>
>
>> On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>>> Hello,
>>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
>>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
>>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
>>> are some cool ones.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fabri
>>>
>>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>
>>>      D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>>>      it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>>>
>>>      Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>>>      better support for interaction.
>>>
>>>      Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>>>      use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>>      interaction is not well supported.
>>>      Some examples:
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>>
>>>      Cheers,
>>>      Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>>       > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>>>      <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>       >
>>>       > In case you don't know yet:
>>>       >
>>>       > http://d3js.org/
>>>       >
>>>       > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>>>      D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>>>      web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>>>      tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>>>      components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>>       >
>>>       > Here nice examples:
>>>       >
>>>       > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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Re: d3 js

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> But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.

I do not think it is hard to beat actually:
  - D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G.
  - D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug.
  - Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.

This is where Roassal has a role to play

Alexandre

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Re: d3 js

philippeback
Yeah, they are very hard to debug.

And to get D3 to play well with a lot of other js things is no walk in the park either.

Phil


On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.

I do not think it is hard to beat actually:
  - D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G.
  - D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug.
  - Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.

This is where Roassal has a role to play

Alexandre

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Re: d3 js

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Am 28.11.2014 um 22:44 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
>> But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
> I do not think it is hard to beat actually:
>    - D3 is slow to load on mobile devices using 3G.
>    - D3 visualization are (very) hard to debug.
>    - Adapting one of the template is not trivial at all.
>
> This is where Roassal has a role to play
We will see. ;-)
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We will see with spur, sista and be clever with algorithms


Le 28/11/14 22:31, [hidden email] a écrit :

> Rossal is the best promotion for Pharo 3.0. The better Roassal the
> more popular Pharo will be .... i am sure.
>
> But, yes D3.js is very cool and blazing fast ..... hard to beat.
>
> BW,
> Volkert
>
>
> Am 28.11.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Alexandre Bergel:
>> We should not be pessimistic. D3 is very powerful and people are
>> doing amazing things with it.
>> However, I believe we can do much better. It just takes a bit of
>> time. But we will get there on some point.
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use
>>> Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a
>>> visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive
>>> visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some
>>> similar result?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf
>>>> Roassal (bad
>>>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas
>>>> about new
>>>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the
>>>> examples there
>>>> are some cool ones.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Fabri
>>>>
>>>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>>
>>>>      D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are
>>>> well aware of
>>>>      it and, as you know we are actively working on a better
>>>> competitor.
>>>>
>>>>      Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new
>>>> one, with
>>>>      better support for interaction.
>>>>
>>>>      Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will
>>>> be faster to
>>>>      use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>>>      interaction is not well supported.
>>>>      Some examples:
>>>> http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>>>
>>>>      Cheers,
>>>>      Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin
>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>      <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>       >
>>>>       > In case you don't know yet:
>>>>       >
>>>>       > http://d3js.org/
>>>>       >
>>>>       > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents
>>>> based on data.
>>>>      D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s
>>>> emphasis on
>>>>      web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern
>>>> browsers without
>>>>      tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful
>>>> visualization
>>>>      components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>>>       >
>>>>       > Here nice examples:
>>>>       >
>>>>       > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
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>>>>      ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>>>>
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Re: d3 js

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Well I'm thinking in exporting some interactive visualizations made on
Roassal to the web. Just wondering which is the path for that. For the
moment I'm pretty happy with Roassal on desktop and its graphics
exported as SVG and raster png, just thinking what is needed to export
for and interactive web.

Cheers,

Offray

El 28/11/14 a las #4, Yuriy Tymchuk escribió:

> I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.
>
> Uko
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>>> Hello,
>>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
>>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
>>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
>>> are some cool ones.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Fabri
>>>
>>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>
>>>      D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>>>      it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>>>
>>>      Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>>>      better support for interaction.
>>>
>>>      Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>>>      use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>>      interaction is not well supported.
>>>      Some examples:
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>>      http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>>
>>>      Cheers,
>>>      Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>>       > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>>>      <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>       >
>>>       > In case you don't know yet:
>>>       >
>>>       > http://d3js.org/
>>>       >
>>>       > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>>>      D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>>>      web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>>>      tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>>>      components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>>       >
>>>       > Here nice examples:
>>>       >
>>>       > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
>>>      > _______________________________________________
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>>>      Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>>>      ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>>>
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Re: d3 js

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Yes, we are actively working on this

Alexandre



> Le 29-11-2014 à 15:42, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>
> Well I'm thinking in exporting some interactive visualizations made on Roassal to the web. Just wondering which is the path for that. For the moment I'm pretty happy with Roassal on desktop and its graphics exported as SVG and raster png, just thinking what is needed to export for and interactive web.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>> El 28/11/14 a las #4, Yuriy Tymchuk escribió:
>> I think that it's completely possible. The question is: what do we want to achieve. Because there is a lib called dc which is essentially DSL for interactive graphs built with d3.
>>
>> Uko
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just for the sake of the thread, I wonder if there is any way to use Amber as a bridge between Roassal and d3js so one can create a visualization completely on Roassal and export it as an interactive visualization powered by d3... there is any other path to some similar result?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>>> El 27/11/14 a las #4, Fabrizio Perin escribió:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> thanks for your answer Alex, I was not aware of the HTML export pf Roassal (bad
>>>> Fabri). My first email was more meant for people to pick ideas about new
>>>> visualizations to build in the Smalltalk world since between the examples there
>>>> are some cool ones.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Fabri
>>>>
>>>> 2014-11-26 15:03 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>>
>>>>     D3 is probably the most well known javascript library. We are well aware of
>>>>     it and, as you know we are actively working on a better competitor.
>>>>
>>>>     Roassal has already a HTML exporter, we have working on a new one, with
>>>>     better support for interaction.
>>>>
>>>>     Something that I can insure you, is that right now, you will be faster to
>>>>     use roassal if you want to put data on the web than D3. But well,
>>>>     interaction is not well supported.
>>>>     Some examples:
>>>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/DependencyAnalyzerBuilder.html
>>>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETHistogram.html
>>>>     http://objectprofile.com/examples/GraphETLine.html
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>     Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      > On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]
>>>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      > In case you don't know yet:
>>>>      >
>>>>      > http://d3js.org/
>>>>      >
>>>>      > "D3.js is a JavaScript library for manipulating documents based on data.
>>>>     D3 helps you bring data to life using HTML, SVG and CSS. D3’s emphasis on
>>>>     web standards gives you the full capabilities of modern browsers without
>>>>     tying yourself to a proprietary framework, combining powerful visualization
>>>>     components and a data-driven approach to DOM manipulation."
>>>>      >
>>>>      > Here nice examples:
>>>>      >
>>>>      > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery
>>>>     > _______________________________________________
>>>>     > Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>     >[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
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>>>>     Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>     ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>>>>
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