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Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as mondrian) or list or whatever
we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation facilities? Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Stef,
There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. Cheers, Doru On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as > mondrian) or list or whatever > we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation > facilities? > > Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: default menu cross entities
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On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Stef, > > There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to apply on it so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me having the possibility to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the moose map is missing. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as mondrian) or list or whatever >> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation facilities? >> >> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I do not understand :(.
Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all possible navigation paths. Doru On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. >> If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in >> Moose and then you get the Finder. > > that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see a > node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to > apply on it > so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all class > and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me having > the possibility > to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the moose > map is missing. > > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>> navigation facilities? >>> >>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: default menu cross entities
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Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group....
then I would like to be able to click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular package click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular class Is it clearer? On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > I do not understand :(. > > Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all possible navigation paths. > > Doru > > > On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >> >> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to apply on it >> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me having the possibility >> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the moose map is missing. >> >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation facilities? >>>> >>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but a
specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not offer the Moose menu. For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if it works for you. For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all times you should use: - in the Mondrian visualization: view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. - in Glamour: a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] Cheers, Doru On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... > then I would like to be able to > click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for that > particular package > click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for that > particular class > > Is it clearer? > > > > On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> I do not understand :(. >> >> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any >> entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking >> around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all >> possible navigation paths. >> >> Doru >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. >>>> If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in >>>> Moose and then you get the Finder. >>> >>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see >>> a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to >>> apply on it >>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all >>> class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me >>> having the possibility >>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the >>> moose map is missing. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>>>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>> >>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "We are all great at making mistakes." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: default menu cross entities
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if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: full navigation On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not offer the Moose menu. > > For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if it works for you. > > For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all times you should use: > - in the Mondrian visualization: > view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. > > - in Glamour: > a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... >> then I would like to be able to >> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular package >> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular class >> >> Is it clearer? >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> I do not understand :(. >>> >>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all possible navigation paths. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>> >>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>> >>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to apply on it >>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me having the possibility >>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the moose map is missing. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation facilities? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "We are all great at making mistakes." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Exactly.
Doru On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Good > if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: full > navigation > On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but a >> specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not >> offer the Moose menu. >> >> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if it >> works for you. >> >> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all times >> you should use: >> - in the Mondrian visualization: >> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >> >> - in Glamour: >> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... >>> then I would like to be able to >>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for >>> that particular package >>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for that >>> particular class >>> >>> Is it clearer? >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> I do not understand :(. >>>> >>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any >>>> entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking >>>> around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all >>>> possible navigation paths. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to >>>>>> open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>> >>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I >>>>> see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I >>>>> want to apply on it >>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all >>>>> class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for >>>>> me having the possibility >>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the >>>>> moose map is missing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>>>>>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "We are all great at making mistakes." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I have a problem with the method in Mondrian:
When I invoke it then I add a new line in my menu, this one is not considered. I do that: view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. view interaction item: 'View another thing' action:[ "to do"]. Is there any way to bypass this behavior ? On May 3, 2010, at 22:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: > Exactly. > > Doru > > > On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Good >> if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: full navigation >> On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not offer the Moose menu. >>> >>> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if it works for you. >>> >>> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all times you should use: >>> - in the Mondrian visualization: >>> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >>> >>> - in Glamour: >>> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... >>>> then I would like to be able to >>>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular package >>>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for that particular class >>>> >>>> Is it clearer? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> I do not understand :(. >>>>> >>>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all possible navigation paths. >>>>> >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I want to apply on it >>>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So for me having the possibility >>>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the moose map is missing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the navigation facilities? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev --- Jannik Laval _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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That happens because the menuBlock bypasses anything else. A way to
bypass this is to create your own menu morph by adding your action as an item directly to the mooseMenuMorph. The reason why this happens is that Mondrian does not offer an Action as a first class. If it would offer it, then mooseMenu could return such a structure and then adding to it would be no problem. Cheers, Doru On 7 May 2010, at 09:41, Laval Jannik wrote: > I have a problem with the method in Mondrian: > > When I invoke it then I add a new line in my menu, this one is not > considered. > I do that: > > view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. > view interaction item: 'View another thing' action:[ "to do"]. > > Is there any way to bypass this behavior ? > > On May 3, 2010, at 22:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Exactly. >> >> Doru >> >> >> On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Good >>> if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: >>> full navigation >>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have but >>>> a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it does not >>>> offer the Moose menu. >>>> >>>> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if >>>> it works for you. >>>> >>>> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all >>>> times you should use: >>>> - in the Mondrian visualization: >>>> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >>>> >>>> - in Glamour: >>>> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package group.... >>>>> then I would like to be able to >>>>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for >>>>> that particular package >>>>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for >>>>> that particular class >>>>> >>>>> Is it clearer? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not understand :(. >>>>>> >>>>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any >>>>>> entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking >>>>>> around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all >>>>>> possible navigation paths. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>>>>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have to >>>>>>>> open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I >>>>>>> see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what I >>>>>>> want to apply on it >>>>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all >>>>>>> class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So >>>>>>> for me having the possibility >>>>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on the >>>>>>> moose map is missing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either as >>>>>>>>> mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>>>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it >> cannot be done." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > --- > Jannik Laval > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Presenting is storytelling." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> That happens because the menuBlock bypasses anything else. A way to
> bypass this is to create your own menu morph by adding your action > as an item directly to the mooseMenuMorph. > > The reason why this happens is that Mondrian does not offer an > Action as a first class. If it would offer it, then mooseMenu could > return such a structure and then adding to it would be no problem. How would you script the thing? Alexandre > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 7 May 2010, at 09:41, Laval Jannik wrote: > >> I have a problem with the method in Mondrian: >> >> When I invoke it then I add a new line in my menu, this one is not >> considered. >> I do that: >> >> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >> view interaction item: 'View another thing' action:[ "to do"]. >> >> Is there any way to bypass this behavior ? >> >> On May 3, 2010, at 22:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Exactly. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Good >>>> if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: >>>> full navigation >>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have >>>>> but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it >>>>> does not offer the Moose menu. >>>>> >>>>> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if >>>>> it works for you. >>>>> >>>>> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all >>>>> times you should use: >>>>> - in the Mondrian visualization: >>>>> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >>>>> >>>>> - in Glamour: >>>>> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package >>>>>> group.... >>>>>> then I would like to be able to >>>>>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps for >>>>>> that particular package >>>>>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for >>>>>> that particular class >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it clearer? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not understand :(. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of any >>>>>>> entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no looking >>>>>>> around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you have all >>>>>>> possible navigation paths. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>>>>>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have >>>>>>>>> to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where I >>>>>>>> see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide what >>>>>>>> I want to apply on it >>>>>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find all >>>>>>>> class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. So >>>>>>>> for me having the possibility >>>>>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on >>>>>>>> the moose map is missing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either >>>>>>>>>> as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>>>>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it >>> cannot be done." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Presenting is storytelling." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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The script would remain pretty much the same, only internally you
would not store a menu morph directly, but just a collection of actions that have a category (which will translate into menus). This is similar to what there is now in item:action:, only the item would have an explicit class not just an association. The other option would be to not have an either or between items and morphs (see menuMorphFor:), and always transform the action into a morph. This is the solution that we adopted in VW. In Glamour we have the first solution. Cheers, Doru On 7 May 2010, at 18:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> That happens because the menuBlock bypasses anything else. A way to >> bypass this is to create your own menu morph by adding your action >> as an item directly to the mooseMenuMorph. >> >> The reason why this happens is that Mondrian does not offer an >> Action as a first class. If it would offer it, then mooseMenu could >> return such a structure and then adding to it would be no problem. > > How would you script the thing? > > Alexandre > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 7 May 2010, at 09:41, Laval Jannik wrote: >> >>> I have a problem with the method in Mondrian: >>> >>> When I invoke it then I add a new line in my menu, this one is not >>> considered. >>> I do that: >>> >>> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >>> view interaction item: 'View another thing' action:[ "to do"]. >>> >>> Is there any way to bypass this behavior ? >>> >>> On May 3, 2010, at 22:30 , Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Exactly. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 22:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good >>>>> if this is there we should have it all the time on any entity: >>>>> full navigation >>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ahh, in that case this is not a generic problem that you have >>>>>> but a specific problem with the Distribution Map, because it >>>>>> does not offer the Moose menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> For a difference, please check the System Complexity and see if >>>>>> it works for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> For everyone's information: To provide the Moose menu at all >>>>>> times you should use: >>>>>> - in the Mondrian visualization: >>>>>> view interaction menu: #mooseMenuMorph. >>>>>> >>>>>> - in Glamour: >>>>>> a list actions: [ :list | list selection mooseFinderActions ] >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:42, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do if I open a distribution map by clicking on a package >>>>>>> group.... >>>>>>> then I would like to be able to >>>>>>> click on the large box and get the navigation = other maps >>>>>>> for that particular package >>>>>>> click on a small box and get the navigation = other maps for >>>>>>> that particular class >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it clearer? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not understand :(. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Using the "Open in Moose" item from the contextual menu of >>>>>>>> any entity opens that entity in Moose Finder. There is no >>>>>>>> looking around for that class. Once in the Moose Finder you >>>>>>>> have all possible navigation paths. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 20:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is a default menu. Only that navigation is not in the >>>>>>>>>> menu. If you want to get to all navigation paths, you have >>>>>>>>>> to open in Moose and then you get the Finder. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that does not answer my problem. I ended to situation where >>>>>>>>> I see a node and I get the class name but I cannot decide >>>>>>>>> what I want to apply on it >>>>>>>>> so I'm stuck and I have to go back to the finder and find >>>>>>>>> all class and find the class that I just had under my mouse. >>>>>>>>> So for me having the possibility >>>>>>>>> to really navigate and not only in the moose finder but on >>>>>>>>> the moose map is missing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2010, at 17:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Could it be possible that anywhere we get a class (either >>>>>>>>>>> as mondrian) or list or whatever >>>>>>>>>>> we could get a default navigation menus offering all the >>>>>>>>>>> navigation facilities? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Because now we arrive to some dead-ends. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "We are all great at making mistakes." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it >>>> cannot be done." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> --- >>> Jannik Laval >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Presenting is storytelling." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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