On Jun 2, 2013, at 5:48 AM, Bahman Movaqar <
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> On 2013-06-02 08:01,
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>>
>> I hope you guys don't mind, but in writing my dissertation and there is
>> no one local with Smalltalk experience to double-check some statements
>> that I'm making. Over the next few weeks I'd like to bounce a few off
>> the list, mainly for a simple "thats not right". For the first....
>>
>> "In languages like C++ and Java the class definition is just text in a
>> file that is compiled into a runtime, and the class definition _cannot_
>> be defined or changed by that runtime. In Smalltalk you develop from
>> inside the runtime image, so the runtime manipulate the class definition
>> like any other object of the system."
>>
>>
>> So what I want to check is that is it true to say you can't do that with
>> C++ and Java ?
>
> I don't know about C++ but for Java there are libraries like CGLib[1] or
> ASM[2] that can manipulate/generate classes/interfaces at runtime.
> However the operation is not even remotely like editing code! It's
> writing code to change or generate the bytecode.
>
> [1]
http://cglib.sourceforge.net/> [2]
http://asm.ow2.org/yes we can that too.
Now in Smalltalk modifying first class object representing the system itself is part of the core of the system
>
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> Bahman Movaqar (
http://BahmanM.com)
> ERP Evaluation, Implementation, Deployment Consultant
>