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I am very annoyed.
Please turn this OFF by default. It is for me the most !@#$%^ way auto bracket typing is implemented. There is no obvious way to type a single ' or [ or ... I type it once, I get two. I delete one of them, the other also dissapears. Aaargh! -- Johan Fabry [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Delete the last one :)
Doru On 10 May 2010, at 22:58, Johan Fabry wrote: > I am very annoyed. > > Please turn this OFF by default. It is for me the most !@#$%^ way > auto bracket typing is implemented. There is no obvious way to type > a single ' or [ or ... I type it once, I get two. I delete one of > them, the other also dissapears. Aaargh! > > -- > Johan Fabry > [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- www.tudorgirba.com "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Thanks for the report. Please open a ticket and describe what is wrong and how you would expect it to work:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/entry Patches are also welcome. You can also disable the feature. Open a preference browser and search for "bracket". Cheers, Adrian On May 10, 2010, at 22:58 , Johan Fabry wrote: > I am very annoyed. > > Please turn this OFF by default. It is for me the most !@#$%^ way auto bracket typing is implemented. There is no obvious way to type a single ' or [ or ... I type it once, I get two. I delete one of them, the other also dissapears. Aaargh! > > -- > Johan Fabry > [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and
quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. So, why is this a bug? Doru On 10 May 2010, at 23:26, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Thanks for the report. Please open a ticket and describe what is > wrong and how you would expect it to work: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/entry > > Patches are also welcome. > > You can also disable the feature. Open a preference browser and > search for "bracket". > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On May 10, 2010, at 22:58 , Johan Fabry wrote: > >> I am very annoyed. >> >> Please turn this OFF by default. It is for me the most !@#$%^ way >> auto bracket typing is implemented. There is no obvious way to type >> a single ' or [ or ... I type it once, I get two. I delete one of >> them, the other also dissapears. Aaargh! >> >> -- >> Johan Fabry >> [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving should be concentrated on describing the problem in a way that is relevant for the solution." _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote:
> If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. > So, why is this a bug? How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work in Pharo? I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too many. Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com www.xprogramming.com/blog New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in them?" -- H. G. Wells _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> wrote:
Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I This is how it works: 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] and I need to have it like this: Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) the whay to work with Pharo is not: Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] then Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha Cheers Mariano
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It may feel annoying at first, but it gets really confortable in (little) time. Selecting text and "surround" it with a pair of brackets/quotes/etc. is just great. The feuture that is bothering you really helps to type quicker and cleaner once you get used to it.
Maybe... there could be some kind of shortcut to write just the opening bracket/quote/whatever without it's closing pair? For example, if I press Shift+8 I get (). But if I press Alt+Shift+8 I could get just (. Do you think that could be more confortable to avoid deleting the closing character? On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hi,
How to type a single item: - Type " => "" - Press DEL => " There is indeed an improvement that could be made. In TextMate once you move the cursor, the deletion of a start character trigger no longer deletes the other one. That could indeed be useful in Pharo as well. Cheers, Doru On 11 May 2010, at 00:33, Carla F. Griggio wrote: > It may feel annoying at first, but it gets really confortable in > (little) time. Selecting text and "surround" it with a pair of > brackets/quotes/etc. is just great. The feuture that is bothering > you really helps to type quicker and cleaner once you get used to it. > > Maybe... there could be some kind of shortcut to write just the > opening bracket/quote/whatever without it's closing pair? > > For example, if I press Shift+8 I get (). > But if I press Alt+Shift+8 I could get just (. > > Do you think that could be more confortable to avoid deleting the > closing character? > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email] > > wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> > wrote: > Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: > > > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and > > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like > TextMate. > > > So, why is this a bug? > > How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work > in Pharo? > > > Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package > Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore > for example, it doesn't happen. > > I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I > am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too > many. > > This is how it works: > > 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... > it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is > usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to > open the right one. > > 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. > > 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like > 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right > > > Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to > go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I > have this > > Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > and I need to have it like this: > > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > the whay to work with Pharo is not: > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > then > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you > press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 > timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . > And the same with all those characters. > > It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very > very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I > was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and > then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to > work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > Ron Jeffries > www.XProgramming.com > www.xprogramming.com/blog > New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not > belittled, > the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in > them?" -- H. G. Wells > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users -- www.tudorgirba.com "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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On 10 May 2010, at 18:36, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > How to type a single item: > - Type " => "" > - Press DEL => " Ah yes, something simple enough for me to get used to. I will try that and see how annoyed I get :-) > There is indeed an improvement that could be made. In TextMate once you move the cursor, the deletion of a start character trigger no longer deletes the other one. That could indeed be useful in Pharo as well. This is an excellent idea! -- Johan Fabry [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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It's not a bug, it's just that the default behavior annoys me in that it is difficult to write a single opening character, and sometimes when you want to delete one character it deletes 2 of them (especially annoying when you editing a String with quotes included). I just would appreciate that the default behavior be something that does not surprise the user, i.e. turn it off (which is what I usually do on new images). On 10 May 2010, at 17:26, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Thanks for the report. Please open a ticket and describe what is wrong and how you would expect it to work: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/entry > > Patches are also welcome. > > You can also disable the feature. Open a preference browser and search for "bracket". > > Cheers, > Adrian -- Johan Fabry [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Nice trick that, I see that it is very useful. But this is not made obvious to the user, so another 'surprising' behavior, i.e. not nice. Another alternative: would it be possible to have an open workspace in the default image that documents these ecompletion behaviors (with the possibility to turn it off by a DoIt)? On 10 May 2010, at 18:18, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. -- Johan Fabry [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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FWIW I hate this behaviour also. A number of IDEs do it too (Eclipse,
Netbeans). I always turn this behaviour off because it infuriates me. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:04:25PM -0400, Johan Fabry wrote: > > It's not a bug, it's just that the default behavior annoys me in that it is difficult to write a single opening character, and sometimes when you want to delete one character it deletes 2 of them (especially annoying when you editing a String with quotes included). > > I just would appreciate that the default behavior be something that does not surprise the user, i.e. turn it off (which is what I usually do on new images). > > On 10 May 2010, at 17:26, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > Thanks for the report. Please open a ticket and describe what is wrong and how you would expect it to work: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/entry > > > > Patches are also welcome. > > > > You can also disable the feature. Open a preference browser and search for "bracket". > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > -- > Johan Fabry > [hidden email] - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Daniel Birkinshaw <[hidden email]> wrote: FWIW I hate this behaviour also. A number of IDEs do it too (Eclipse, _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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mariano
can you create a page on the book with that? Stef On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: > > > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and > > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. > > > So, why is this a bug? > > How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work > in Pharo? > > > Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. > > I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I > am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too > many. > > This is how it works: > > 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. > > 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. > > 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right > > > Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this > > Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > and I need to have it like this: > > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > the whay to work with Pharo is not: > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] > > then > > Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) > > The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. > > It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > Ron Jeffries > www.XProgramming.com > www.xprogramming.com/blog > New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, > the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in > them?" -- H. G. Wells > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407.
Lukas On 11 May 2010 10:39, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > mariano > > can you create a page on the book with that? > > Stef > > On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >> >> > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >> > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >> >> > So, why is this a bug? >> >> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >> in Pharo? >> >> >> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. >> >> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >> many. >> >> This is how it works: >> >> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >> >> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >> >> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >> >> >> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this >> >> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> and I need to have it like this: >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> then >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. >> >> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> www.XProgramming.com >> www.xprogramming.com/blog >> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, >> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >> them?" -- H. G. Wells >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. I thought it was Shout who did that...is ECompletion instead ? Lukas _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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Yes, of course :-)
Lukas On 11 May 2010 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. >> > > I thought it was Shout who did that...is ECompletion instead ? > > >> >> Lukas >> >> On 11 May 2010 10:39, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > mariano >> > >> > can you create a page on the book with that? >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> >> >> wrote: >> >> Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> > If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >> >> > quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >> >> >> >> > So, why is this a bug? >> >> >> >> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >> >> in Pharo? >> >> >> >> >> >> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package >> >> Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for >> >> example, it doesn't happen. >> >> >> >> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >> >> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >> >> many. >> >> >> >> This is how it works: >> >> >> >> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it >> >> will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the >> >> case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >> >> >> >> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >> >> >> >> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) >> >> , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >> >> >> >> >> >> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go >> >> to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this >> >> >> >> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> >> >> and I need to have it like this: >> >> >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> >> >> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >> >> >> >> then >> >> >> >> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >> >> >> >> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you >> >> press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 >> >> timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the >> >> same with all those characters. >> >> >> >> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very >> >> useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a >> >> java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with >> >> Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, >> >> in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> >> www.XProgramming.com >> >> www.xprogramming.com/blog >> >> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not >> >> belittled, >> >> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >> >> them?" -- H. G. Wells >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-users mailing list >> >> [hidden email] >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-users mailing list >> >> [hidden email] >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-users mailing list >> > [hidden email] >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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I saw but I want that on http://book.pharo-project.org
On May 11, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2407. > > Lukas > > On 11 May 2010 10:39, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> mariano >> >> can you create a page on the book with that? >> >> Stef >> >> On May 11, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Ron Jeffries <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hello, Tudor. On Monday, May 10, 2010, at 5:38:07 PM, you wrote: >>> >>>> If I understood correctly it is about the matching of brackets and >>>> quotes. In this regard, the completion behaves exactly like TextMate. >>> >>>> So, why is this a bug? >>> >>> How do you manage to type a single quote in TextMate? Does that work >>> in Pharo? >>> >>> >>> Good question. But I don't know. This "feature" is from the package Shout that is installed in Pharo dev images. If you take a PharoCore for example, it doesn't happen. >>> >>> I keep winding up with too many right parens. It is possible that I >>> am typing too many. My suspicion is that Pharo is providing too >>> many. >>> >>> This is how it works: >>> >>> 1) when you type the LEFT side of: { , [ , ( , " , ' etc .... it will AUTOMATICALLY open the other pair. This is because this is usually the case: you open the left one, you will probably need to open the right one. >>> >>> 2) when you type the RIGHT side, it only writes the right side. >>> >>> 3) When you remove a left side of the two recently created ( like 1) ) , just after creating it, it removes both of them: left and right >>> >>> >>> Let me remark something. The style to work with this tool, is not to go to left, type, then go to right, and type. I mean, suppose I have this >>> >>> Transcript show: 5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >>> >>> and I need to have it like this: >>> >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >>> >>> the whay to work with Pharo is not: >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something'] >>> >>> then >>> >>> Transcript show: (5 timesRepeat: ['something']) >>> >>> The idea is that you FIRST select the code you want, and then, you press the LEFT side of what you want. In that case, you select "5 timesRepeat: ['something']" and with that selected you press "(" . And the same with all those characters. >>> >>> It is difficult to explain by chat hahahaha. I think they are very very useful, but you have to get use to. When I started with Pharo I was still a java developer..so I was the whole day with Eclipse and then at night with Pharo...and it was incredible how I was trying to work this way in Eclipse, in gmail, in TextEdit etc hahahahha >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Jeffries >>> www.XProgramming.com >>> www.xprogramming.com/blog >>> New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, >>> the humiliating question arises, "Why then are you not taking part in >>> them?" -- H. G. Wells >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-users mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
Re: ecompletion - smart characters
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Ok...I added this information to the book. Please look at:
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/CodeEditing/SmartCharactersAutocompletion Cheers Mariano On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: I saw but I want that on http://book.pharo-project.org _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
Re: ecompletion - smart characters
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Cool!
On May 13, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ok...I added this information to the book. Please look at: > > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/CodeEditing/SmartCharactersAutocompletion > > Cheers > > Mariano _______________________________________________ Pharo-users mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users |
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