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Hi Andre,
I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! I will go over the code more closely tonight. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hello Doru,
Thanks! If you want to see the charts that are working, you can try: VWPESExamples new runAll best regards, On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Andre, -- Andre Hora _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Really cool!
I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? Alexandre On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Andre, > > I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! > > I will go over the code more closely tonight. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Really cool! > I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? Why would it make sens? > > Alexandre > > > On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Andre, >> >> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >> >> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> >> Really cool! >> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? > > Why would it make sens? To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). Alexandre > >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi Andre, >>> >>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>> >>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hello Alexandre,
We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. regards, On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea.
I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. Alexandre > > regards, > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > >> Really cool! > >> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? > > > > Why would it make sens? > > To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). > > Alexandre > > > > > >> > >> Alexandre > >> > >> > >> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Andre, > >>> > >>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! > >>> > >>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Doru > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>> > >>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > Andre Hora > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
The EyeSee charts should not be Mondrian shapes. Instead, we should have an MOEyeSeeShape that takes a chart as a parameter. Cheers, Doru On 31 Mar 2011, at 18:41, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. > > I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. > > Alexandre > >> >> regards, >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Really cool! >>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>> >>> Why would it make sens? >> >> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>> >>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>> >>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Hora >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Indeed, I already took a look at these examples. This is why I am congratulating your job :)
Cheers, Doru On 31 Mar 2011, at 16:17, Andre Hora wrote: > Hello Doru, > > Thanks! > If you want to see the charts that are working, you can try: > VWPESExamples new runAll > > best regards, > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Andre, > > I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! > > I will go over the code more closely tonight. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > Andre Hora > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Don't give to get. Just give." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> The EyeSee charts should not be Mondrian shapes. Instead, we should have an MOEyeSeeShape that takes a chart as a parameter.
I agree. A chart is not a specialized node. But where to put this class MOEyeSeeShape? Will it be part of EyeSee? Does EyeSee intent to run without Mondrian? I would answer positively, meaning that MOEyeSeeShape should be in a separate package. Alexandre > > On 31 Mar 2011, at 18:41, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. >> >> I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. >> >> Alexandre >> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Really cool! >>>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>>> >>>> Why would it make sens? >>> >>> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>>> >>>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andre Hora >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> The EyeSee charts should not be Mondrian shapes. Instead, we should have an MOEyeSeeShape that takes a chart as a parameter. > > I agree. A chart is not a specialized node. > > But where to put this class MOEyeSeeShape? Will it be part of EyeSee? Does EyeSee intent to run without Mondrian? > I would answer positively, meaning that MOEyeSeeShape should be in a separate package. EyeSee is a separate project at this moment. Perhaps at some point we can merge the Canvas implementation, but at the moment the two projects are totally separated. So, yes, This MOEyeSeeShape should be in a separate package. Cheers, Doru > Alexandre > >> >> On 31 Mar 2011, at 18:41, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. >>> >>> I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Really cool! >>>>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>>>> >>>>> Why would it make sens? >>>> >>>> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andre Hora >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Presenting is storytelling." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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EyeSee has nothing to do with mondrian. Stef On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > The EyeSee charts should not be Mondrian shapes. Instead, we should have an MOEyeSeeShape that takes a chart as a parameter. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 31 Mar 2011, at 18:41, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. >> >> I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. >> >> Alexandre >> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Really cool! >>>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>>> >>>> Why would it make sens? >>> >>> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>>> >>>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andre Hora >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. > > I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. I imagine by having a mondrianNode that invokes a eyesee chart. no? > > Alexandre > >> >> regards, >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Really cool! >>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>> >>> Why would it make sens? >> >> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >> >> Alexandre >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>> >>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>> >>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Hora >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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> EyeSee is a separate project at this moment. Perhaps at some point we can merge the Canvas implementation, but at the moment the two projects are totally separated.
This should not be that hard since I guess you're using FormCanvas to do the drawing. Excellent! Cheers, Alexandre > > > >> Alexandre >> >>> >>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 18:41, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>>> We are not creating subclasses of MONodeShape. But it would be a good idea. >>>> >>>> I am not saying you should do this. But I am just wondering how a visualization can be assessible from a mondrian visualization. >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Really cool! >>>>>>> I haven't checked at the code, but do you create subclasses of MONodeShape or something? >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would it make sens? >>>>> >>>>> To make an Eyesee curve accessible from Mondrian (e.g., a node popup that shows a curve). >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31 Mar 2011, at 09:50, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Andre, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Andre Hora >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?" >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Presenting is storytelling." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes! We are using FormCanvas.
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In reply to this post by Tudor Girba
How can I load them?
Andre you should also annoucne that in the pharo mailing-list when it will be ready. On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Indeed, I already took a look at these examples. This is why I am congratulating your job :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 31 Mar 2011, at 16:17, Andre Hora wrote: > >> Hello Doru, >> >> Thanks! >> If you want to see the charts that are working, you can try: >> VWPESExamples new runAll >> >> best regards, >> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Andre, >> >> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >> >> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Andre Hora >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Don't give to get. Just give." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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In reply to this post by abergel
On Mar 31, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> The EyeSee charts should not be Mondrian shapes. Instead, we should have an MOEyeSeeShape that takes a chart as a parameter. > > I agree. A chart is not a specialized node. > > But where to put this class MOEyeSeeShape? Will it be part of EyeSee? Does EyeSee intent to run without Mondrian? I would answer positively, meaning that MOEyeSeeShape should be in a separate package. Yes in Mondrian-EyeSee _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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In reply to this post by Stéphane Ducasse
It's not ready yet. When it will be, it will be announced :)
Doru On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:43, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > How can I load them? > Andre you should also annoucne that in the pharo mailing-list when it will be ready. > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Indeed, I already took a look at these examples. This is why I am congratulating your job :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 31 Mar 2011, at 16:17, Andre Hora wrote: >> >>> Hello Doru, >>> >>> Thanks! >>> If you want to see the charts that are working, you can try: >>> VWPESExamples new runAll >>> >>> best regards, >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi Andre, >>> >>> I just took a look at EyeSee. You are doing a great job! >>> >>> I will go over the code more closely tonight. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andre Hora >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Don't give to get. Just give." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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