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Victor-67
>    Feel free to contact me off list and ask anything you want.
 
I appreciate you friendly tone.
I'll do.
 
Víctor
 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

Victor,

Feel free to ask anything you want.

I answered timezone when it was asked. I got annoyed by a question that suggested I was trying to hide the 'where'.
I was trying to hide anything, I just never considered it important. I'm willing to answer any questions anyone has.
>
-Sean-

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:
The point is that in these exchanges you appear as non-transparent, non-communicative, non responsive, with a short fuse, and controlling.  If it's so difficult for you to answer such a simple question as "where are you located?", what should be expected to happen in future exchanges?
 
You say, what does it matter?  If a person asks, for that person it's important.  Your physical address shouldn't be a secret.
You should have been much more upfront about yourself, your company, your performance track.
 
Because it seems to be so much what I would like to be doing, I have considered to apply for the position, but with so many open questions, I am puzzled.
 
Victor
 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

I've already answered plenty of questions off list. After the timezone though, a geographic location for a job that
doesn't have a geographic location is just a little annoying. Even if it leads to Avi giving me a laugh.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Boris Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:
It does, if by EST you mean Estonia :)

To be serious though, job searches are often as much about employer as
they are about an employee. It isn't unreasonable for candidates to want
to know who it is they are dealing with before they decide to apply,
which is why lack of detail in your original message might have spawned
all those questions.

Cheers!

-Boris

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Seaside - general discussion
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

Its a telecommuting position. I didn't think it would matter at all as
no one in the IT department works out of an office.

Until yesterday we had people working from Vancouver to Paris. As of
today just Vancouver to New York.

There is no 'located' as its a telecommuting position and we have people
all over. As long as someone can meet the job requirements, they can
work on mars for all I care ( although that could make the teaching up
part hard. )

Seriously though, EST, NYC? Does it make a difference? Central office is
NYC. I work all hours. Doesn't much matter to me.
What is this timezone obsession some people have? Maybe if it wasn't
mention, it wasn't considered important?



On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:


       Hi Sean,

       It seems like you are trying to avoid saying where are you
located.  Is this the case? If so, why?


       Victor

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               ----- Original Message -----
               From: Sean Allen <mailto:[hidden email]>
               To: Seaside - general discussion
<mailto:[hidden email]>
               Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:45 PM
               Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position



               On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima
<[hidden email]> wrote:


                       At Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:27:35 -0500,

                       Sean Allen wrote:
                       >
                       > doesn't telecommuting cover that?


                        But the potential candidates might like to know
in what timezone he
                       is supposed to be available for prompt
responses.  (I'm not applying,
                       but^^;)



               EST.





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Re: fulltime seaside position

Sean Allen-6
Look forward to hearing from you.

I really wasn't trying to stir up a hornet's nest. The questions really never even occurred to me.

-Sean-

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>    Feel free to contact me off list and ask anything you want.
 
I appreciate you friendly tone.
I'll do.
 
Víctor
 
===================================

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

Victor,

Feel free to ask anything you want.

I answered timezone when it was asked. I got annoyed by a question that suggested I was trying to hide the 'where'.
I was trying to hide anything, I just never considered it important. I'm willing to answer any questions anyone has.
>
-Sean-

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:
The point is that in these exchanges you appear as non-transparent, non-communicative, non responsive, with a short fuse, and controlling.  If it's so difficult for you to answer such a simple question as "where are you located?", what should be expected to happen in future exchanges?
 
You say, what does it matter?  If a person asks, for that person it's important.  Your physical address shouldn't be a secret.
You should have been much more upfront about yourself, your company, your performance track.
 
Because it seems to be so much what I would like to be doing, I have considered to apply for the position, but with so many open questions, I am puzzled.
 
Victor
 
===================================
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

I've already answered plenty of questions off list. After the timezone though, a geographic location for a job that
doesn't have a geographic location is just a little annoying. Even if it leads to Avi giving me a laugh.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Boris Popov <[hidden email]> wrote:
It does, if by EST you mean Estonia :)

To be serious though, job searches are often as much about employer as
they are about an employee. It isn't unreasonable for candidates to want
to know who it is they are dealing with before they decide to apply,
which is why lack of detail in your original message might have spawned
all those questions.

Cheers!

-Boris

--
+1.604.689.0322
DeepCove Labs Ltd.
4th floor 595 Howe Street
Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5
http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4

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-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sean
Allen
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Seaside - general discussion
Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position

Its a telecommuting position. I didn't think it would matter at all as
no one in the IT department works out of an office.

Until yesterday we had people working from Vancouver to Paris. As of
today just Vancouver to New York.

There is no 'located' as its a telecommuting position and we have people
all over. As long as someone can meet the job requirements, they can
work on mars for all I care ( although that could make the teaching up
part hard. )

Seriously though, EST, NYC? Does it make a difference? Central office is
NYC. I work all hours. Doesn't much matter to me.
What is this timezone obsession some people have? Maybe if it wasn't
mention, it wasn't considered important?



On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:


       Hi Sean,

       It seems like you are trying to avoid saying where are you
located.  Is this the case? If so, why?


       Victor

       ===============================

               ----- Original Message -----
               From: Sean Allen <mailto:[hidden email]>
               To: Seaside - general discussion
<mailto:[hidden email]>
               Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:45 PM
               Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position



               On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima
<[hidden email]> wrote:


                       At Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:27:35 -0500,

                       Sean Allen wrote:
                       >
                       > doesn't telecommuting cover that?


                        But the potential candidates might like to know
in what timezone he
                       is supposed to be available for prompt
responses.  (I'm not applying,
                       but^^;)



               EST.





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