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Peter Uhnak

fully self-contained Linux VM

Hi,

is it possible to have fully self-contained Linux VM?

Right now if you want to use Pharo on Linux you have to install some libraries directly in the system, which isn't particularly user-friendly.

I know that for example libcairo (needed by Roassal) has hard-coded library paths, but maybe this can be changed so the library can be in the zip.

Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries required to run the VM?

Even if it had to be a special bundle for each linux distribution.

Thanks,

Peter

Nicolai Hess-3-2

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

2016-02-23 13:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

is it possible to have fully self-contained Linux VM?

Right now if you want to use Pharo on Linux you have to install some libraries directly in the system, which isn't particularly user-friendly.

I know that for example libcairo (needed by Roassal) has hard-coded library paths, but maybe this can be changed so the library can be in the zip.

Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries required to run the VM?

Even if it had to be a special bundle for each linux distribution.

If you have a 64Bit linux, you may to have include *a lot* of extra libraries.

libcairo (for 32Bit) alone is not enough. You need all the other 32Bit libraries, cairo depends on.

Thanks,
Peter

Stephan Eggermont-3

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

On 23-02-16 13:35, Peter Uhnák wrote:
> Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries
> required to run the VM?

Sure. And then you need to release updates whenever one of the
underlying lib32 libraries changes. OpenSSL comes to mind.

Stephan

Peter Uhnak

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 23-02-16 13:35, Peter Uhnák wrote:

Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries
required to run the VM?

Sure. And then you need to release updates whenever one of the underlying lib32 libraries changes. OpenSSL comes to mind.

But that would be true for windows & mac VMs, which unlike linux already are self-contained (including OpenSSL).

So I infer it should be possible with some minor changes. :)

Thanks,

Peter

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

In reply to this post by Nicolai Hess-3-2

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-02-23 13:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
Hi,

is it possible to have fully self-contained Linux VM?

Right now if you want to use Pharo on Linux you have to install some libraries directly in the system, which isn't particularly user-friendly.

I know that for example libcairo (needed by Roassal) has hard-coded library paths, but maybe this can be changed so the library can be in the zip.

Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries required to run the VM?

Even if it had to be a special bundle for each linux distribution.

If you have a 64Bit linux, you may to have include *a lot* of extra libraries.
libcairo (for 32Bit) alone is not enough. You need all the other 32Bit libraries, cairo depends on.

Not with the 64-bit VM ;-)

Thanks,
Peter

_,,,^..^,,,_

best, Eliot

EstebanLM

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

On 23 Feb 2016, at 19:05, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-02-23 13:35 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
Hi,

is it possible to have fully self-contained Linux VM?

Right now if you want to use Pharo on Linux you have to install some libraries directly in the system, which isn't particularly user-friendly.

I know that for example libcairo (needed by Roassal) has hard-coded library paths, but maybe this can be changed so the library can be in the zip.

Could something like that be done also for the remaining lib32 libraries required to run the VM?

Even if it had to be a special bundle for each linux distribution.

If you have a 64Bit linux, you may to have include *a lot* of extra libraries.
libcairo (for 32Bit) alone is not enough. You need all the other 32Bit libraries, cairo depends on.

Not with the 64-bit VM ;-)

ans as far as I can foresee, 64bits vms/images will be ready in a couple of months… so do not despair :)

Esteban

Thanks,
Peter

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best, Eliot

Damien Cassou-2

Re: fully self-contained Linux VM

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

On February 23, 2016 1:35:48 PM GMT+01:00, "Peter Uhnák" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>is it possible to have fully self-contained Linux VM?
>
>Right now if you want to use Pharo on Linux you have to install some
>libraries directly in the system, which isn't particularly
>user-friendly.

On Linux, do it the Linux way and use a package manager. There are native packages for several distributions and if yours is not covered, you can still use Nix (which I really recommend in any cases).

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