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I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier on when we start the plain default seaside image? Stef PS: I found the PierImagePersistency but there is not even a single comment. :( _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier on
> when we start the plain default seaside image? Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: PRKernel instances explore Select the kernel and evaluate: self persistency: PRImagePersistency new From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is compiled can screw up your changes. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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what will happen if I do PRImagePersistency new snapshot :) like I did to try :) is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to snapshot? Stef On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier on >> when we start the plain default seaside image? > > Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: > > PRKernel instances explore > > Select the kernel and evaluate: > > self persistency: PRImagePersistency new > > From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when > something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. > > Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or > while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is > compiled can screw up your changes. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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> Ok
> what will happen if I do > PRImagePersistency new snapshot :) like I did to try :) That will take a snapshot. > is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to > snapshot? There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I usually add these three components to a protected admin page. Cheers, Lukas > > > Stef > > On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier >>> on >>> when we start the plain default seaside image? >> >> Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: >> >> PRKernel instances explore >> >> Select the kernel and evaluate: >> >> self persistency: PRImagePersistency new >> >> From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when >> something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. >> >> Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or >> while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is >> compiled can screw up your changes. >> >> Cheers, >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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lukas can add add that to the class comment of PRImagePersistency
Tx On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier on >> when we start the plain default seaside image? > > Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: > > PRKernel instances explore > > Select the kernel and evaluate: > > self persistency: PRImagePersistency new > > From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when > something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. > > Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or > while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is > compiled can screw up your changes. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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Ok excellent I will paly with it.
For now I want to use pier for a private locate pier as I did in the past with SmallWiki. stef On Jun 22, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Ok >> what will happen if I do >> PRImagePersistency new snapshot :) like I did to try :) > > That will take a snapshot. > >> is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to >> snapshot? > > There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The > system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I > usually add these three components to a protected admin page. > > Cheers, > Lukas > >> >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>>> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier >>>> on >>>> when we start the plain default seaside image? >>> >>> Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: >>> >>> PRKernel instances explore >>> >>> Select the kernel and evaluate: >>> >>> self persistency: PRImagePersistency new >>> >>> From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when >>> something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. >>> >>> Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or >>> while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code >>> is >>> compiled can screw up your changes. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lukas >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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>> is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to
>> snapshot? > > There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The > system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I > usually add these three components to a protected admin page. > > Same, I use the exact same layout + shortcut to environments. if you try quicly this adress, you can see it Steph http://www.squeakside.com/seaside/pier/Admin?_s=U7SEOg2yds3EUzZ4&_k=H-JkZOZD&_n&14 Maybe this could be a good default page to have (the admin one) ? as a blog page with archives and other related component. Cheers Cédrick >Cheers, > Lukas > >> >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>>> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier >>>> on >>>> when we start the plain default seaside image? >>> >>> Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: >>> >>> PRKernel instances explore >>> >>> Select the kernel and evaluate: >>> >>> self persistency: PRImagePersistency new >>> >>> From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when >>> something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. >>> >>> Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or >>> while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is >>> compiled can screw up your changes. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lukas >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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Done.
On Jun 22, 2008, at 17:41 , stéphane ducasse wrote: > lukas can add add that to the class comment of PRImagePersistency > > Tx > > On Jun 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> I would like to know, is thedefault persistency mechanism of pier >>> on >>> when we start the plain default seaside image? >> >> Open an explorer on the kernel of your Pier instance: >> >> PRKernel instances explore >> >> Select the kernel and evaluate: >> >> self persistency: PRImagePersistency new >> >> From then on it should automatically take snapshots every hour when >> something changed. Also it automatically backups the images. >> >> Pay attention not set the image persistency while loading code or >> while doing development. Unfortunately saving the image while code is >> compiled can screw up your changes. >> >> Cheers, >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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> >> is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to >> snapshot? > > There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The > system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I > usually add these three components to a protected admin page. I tried during 15 min to find them but I failed. Should I load something? Else how do I access them? Setf _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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>>> is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when to
>>> snapshot? >> >> There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The >> system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I >> usually add these three components to a protected admin page. > > I tried during 15 min to find them but I failed. > Should I load something? > Else how do I access them? 1. Create a page containing: !Users +users+ !Groups +groups+ !System +system+ 2. Subsequently click on the non-existing links and add a Component. Select 'System Users', 'System Groups' and 'System' as the instance for each of them Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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>>>> 1. Create a page containing:
> > !Users > +users+ > > !Groups > +groups+ > > !System > +system+ > > 2. Subsequently click on the non-existing links and add a Component. > Select 'System Users', 'System Groups' and 'System' as the instance > for each of them Thanks I did that But I do not get a save button on any of them. (I loaded Pier Setup as suggested by doru) so may be this is because of that. Stef _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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You only see the save button, when logged in as admin.
On Jun 22, 2008, at 21:35 , stéphane ducasse wrote: >>>>> 1. Create a page containing: >> >> !Users >> +users+ >> >> !Groups >> +groups+ >> >> !System >> +system+ >> >> 2. Subsequently click on the non-existing links and add a Component. >> Select 'System Users', 'System Groups' and 'System' as the instance >> for each of them > > > Thanks > I did that > But I do not get a save button on any of them. (I loaded Pier Setup as > suggested by doru) so > may be this is because of that. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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I found the password by accident.
But when I browsed System or groups or users I do not get a save button. Stef > You only see the save button, when logged in as admin. _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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Hi lukas
I redid the complete steps you describe but I do not get a save command. Stef >>>> is there a command that could be used to let the user decide when >>>> to >>>> snapshot? >>> >>> There are components to manager users, groups and the system. The >>> system component has a button to trigger the snapshot manually. I >>> usually add these three components to a protected admin page. >> >> I tried during 15 min to find them but I failed. >> Should I load something? >> Else how do I access them? > > 1. Create a page containing: > > !Users > +users+ > > !Groups > +groups+ > > !System > +system+ > > 2. Subsequently click on the non-existing links and add a Component. > Select 'System Users', 'System Groups' and 'System' as the instance > for each of them > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki |
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