glamorous toolkit alpha.2

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Roland Illig <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Am 31.10.2018 um 21:44 schrieb Tudor Girba:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As always, we are looking forward to your feedback.
> The web site https://feenk.com/gt/#install looks nice and clean. I quickly glanced over the features and decided that I want to install Moose.
>
> To do this, I had to download and install Pharo, which worked well.
>
> Then, the instructions on the web site say "Execute the following code in a Pharo 7.0 image". Luckily, from past experience, I know that this probably means to open the Playground and execute the code there. I did so.
>
> For the last 15 minutes or so I have been watching the following screeen flicker:
>
> <ajeceolgcnmppiab.png>
>
> The "Loading baseline" boxes come and go, and they make the screen very nervous. They have these red X buttons at the right, but since these buttons constantly jump around on the screen, I have no realistic chance of clicking on them.
>
> As I said, the screen flickered for 15 minutes. In my opinion it is mandatory to give the user at least an estimate as to how long they still have to wait. Without this estimate, I'm left clueless, which feels bad.
>
> Also, during these 15 minutes, the screen often freezes so that clicking or typing doesn't lead to an immediate response. This also feels bad.
>
> The installation instructions on the web site should give a rough estimate as to how long a typical installation takes, so that I can decide beforehands whether I want to invest the time.
>
> <deckmoambnbldlnm.png>
>
> I have no idea about how long this installation will still take, so I'm cancelling it now.
>
> Best,
> Roland
>
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> On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Roland Illig <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Am 31.10.2018 um 21:44 schrieb Tudor Girba:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As always, we are looking forward to your feedback.
> The web site https://feenk.com/gt/#install looks nice and clean. I quickly glanced over the features and decided that I want to install Moose.
>
> To do this, I had to download and install Pharo, which worked well.
> Then, the instructions on the web site say "Execute the following code in a Pharo 7.0 image". Luckily, from past experience, I know that this probably means to open the Playground and execute the code there. I did so.
>
> For the last 15 minutes or so I have been watching the following screeen flicker:
>
> <ajeceolgcnmppiab.png>
>
> The "Loading baseline" boxes come and go, and they make the screen very nervous. They have these red X buttons at the right, but since these buttons constantly jump around on the screen, I have no realistic chance of clicking on them.
>
> As I said, the screen flickered for 15 minutes. In my opinion it is mandatory to give the user at least an estimate as to how long they still have to wait. Without this estimate, I'm left clueless, which feels bad.
>
> Also, during these 15 minutes, the screen often freezes so that clicking or typing doesn't lead to an immediate response. This also feels bad.
>
> The installation instructions on the web site should give a rough estimate as to how long a typical installation takes, so that I can decide beforehands whether I want to invest the time.
>
> <deckmoambnbldlnm.png>
>
> I have no idea about how long this installation will still take, so I'm cancelling it now.
> Best,
> Roland
>
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> On Nov 1, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Like me in Africa, takes me a lot of time to download and most of the time,
> hang on in the middle because I have some internet connection hiccups or timeout due to bad bandwidth ...
> If I'm lucky, I have to try 2 or 3 times in order to load all the files correctly.
>
> I prefer to download the GToolkit64 image, much easier for me, because I can relaunch the dl if something fails.
> Apparently the image works but there is a problem when you launch the image :
>
> <Screen Shot 2018-11-01 at 11.32.46.png>
>
> It would be great to have this image available directly on PharoLauncher.
> Thank you.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:02 AM Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It takes very long. Around +20 minutes for me (I am located in Chile, no idea whether this matters or not).
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> > On Oct 31, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Roland Illig <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Am 31.10.2018 um 21:44 schrieb Tudor Girba:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> As always, we are looking forward to your feedback.
> > The web site https://feenk.com/gt/#install looks nice and clean. I quickly glanced over the features and decided that I want to install Moose.
> >
> > To do this, I had to download and install Pharo, which worked well.
> >
> > Then, the instructions on the web site say "Execute the following code in a Pharo 7.0 image". Luckily, from past experience, I know that this probably means to open the Playground and execute the code there. I did so.
> >
> > For the last 15 minutes or so I have been watching the following screeen flicker:
> >
> > <ajeceolgcnmppiab.png>
> >
> > The "Loading baseline" boxes come and go, and they make the screen very nervous. They have these red X buttons at the right, but since these buttons constantly jump around on the screen, I have no realistic chance of clicking on them.
> >
> > As I said, the screen flickered for 15 minutes. In my opinion it is mandatory to give the user at least an estimate as to how long they still have to wait. Without this estimate, I'm left clueless, which feels bad.
> >
> > Also, during these 15 minutes, the screen often freezes so that clicking or typing doesn't lead to an immediate response. This also feels bad.
> >
> > The installation instructions on the web site should give a rough estimate as to how long a typical installation takes, so that I can decide beforehands whether I want to invest the time.
> >
> > <deckmoambnbldlnm.png>
> >
> > I have no idea about how long this installation will still take, so I'm cancelling it now.
> >
> > Best,
> > Roland
> >
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> Sorbonne University (SU)
> French National Research Institute for Sustainable Development (IRD)
> University of Yaoundé I, Cameroun
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> On Nov 1, 2018, at 7:49 AM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:45 AM Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> I see that you use 64bit. On which OS are you when you get the isTemp problem?
>
>
> MacOS 10.13.6 + PharoLauncher 1.4.6
> Only happens the first time.
>
>  
> After closing the debugger, does it work to open the Glamorous Tour?
>
>
> Yes, I can open the Glamourous Tour.
>
> Thank you Doru.
> --
> Serge Stinckwich
> Int. Research Unit on Modelling/Simulation of Complex Systems (UMMISCO)
> Sorbonne University (SU)
> French National Research Institute for Sustainable Development (IRD)
> University of Yaoundé I, Cameroun
> "Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute."
> https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich
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