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Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Would you want to provide the code as open source?
Doru On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:08, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi ! > > Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > > Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "When people care, great things can happen." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thats cool. Yeah, I would like to have a look at the code. When considered candidates for extracting C# program information, I considered CCI but then Mono.Cecil seemed more reasonable. But I would like to have a look at the code to compare the two implementations, as I haven't programmed in CCI since my PhD days.
thanx Usman
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what model did you extract?
inside methods? symbol resolved? because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi ! > > Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > > Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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alex can you reply?
Stef On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > what model did you extract? > inside methods? > symbol resolved? > because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Hi ! >> >> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. >> >> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Sorry, I missed this email
We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. Alexandre On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > alex can you reply? > > Stef > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> what model did you extract? >> inside methods? >> symbol resolved? >> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Hi ! >>> >>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. >>> >>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Sorry, I missed this email > We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > > Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? what is the license of CCI? > > Alexandre > > > On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> alex can you reply? >> >> Stef >> >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> what model did you extract? >>> inside methods? >>> symbol resolved? >>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi ! >>>> >>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. >>>> >>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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CCI does not operate on the AST, but on the symbols and bytecodes.
Alexandre On 28 Sep 2011, at 03:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Sorry, I missed this email >> We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. >> >> Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > > But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > what is the license of CCI? > >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> alex can you reply? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> what model did you extract? >>>> inside methods? >>>> symbol resolved? >>>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi ! >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. >>>>> >>>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools.
Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL)
From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license
Comparison of the two frameworks:
+ Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant ..
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Alex,
If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) thanx Usman
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Weird. I sent the code the day you asked for it.
Alexandre On 28 Sep 2011, at 08:31, Usman Bhatti wrote: > Alex, > > If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) > > thanx > > Usman > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > Sorry, I missed this email > > We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > > > > Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > > But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > what is the license of CCI? > > CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. > > Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) > From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license > > Comparison of the two frameworks: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages > + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. > > > > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> alex can you reply? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> what model did you extract? > >>> inside methods? > >>> symbol resolved? > >>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi ! > >>>> > >>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > >>>> > >>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Alexandre > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I just sent the code to the mailing list.
I will send it privately if it is not accepted by the list. Cheers, Alexandre On 28 Sep 2011, at 08:31, Usman Bhatti wrote: > Alex, > > If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) > > thanx > > Usman > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > Sorry, I missed this email > > We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > > > > Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > > But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > what is the license of CCI? > > CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. > > Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) > From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license > > Comparison of the two frameworks: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages > + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. > > > > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> alex can you reply? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> what model did you extract? > >>> inside methods? > >>> symbol resolved? > >>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi ! > >>>> > >>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > >>>> > >>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Alexandre > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Apparently, gmail does not like my email. I put it on dropbox
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31543901/petomse.zip Cheers, Alexandre On 28 Sep 2011, at 09:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I just sent the code to the mailing list. > I will send it privately if it is not accepted by the list. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 28 Sep 2011, at 08:31, Usman Bhatti wrote: > >> Alex, >> >> If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) >> >> thanx >> >> Usman >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Sorry, I missed this email >>> We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. >>> >>> Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. >> >> But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? >> what is the license of CCI? >> >> CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. >> >> Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) >> From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license >> >> Comparison of the two frameworks: >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages >> + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> alex can you reply? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> what model did you extract? >>>>> inside methods? >>>>> symbol resolved? >>>>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Ok I got it.
Stef On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > Sorry, I missed this email > > We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > > > > Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > > But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > what is the license of CCI? > > CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. > > Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) > From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license > > Comparison of the two frameworks: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages > + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. > > > > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> alex can you reply? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> what model did you extract? > >>> inside methods? > >>> symbol resolved? > >>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi ! > >>>> > >>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > >>>> > >>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Alexandre > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Could we add all the code in a svn somewhere?
Stef On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > tx > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Apparently, gmail does not like my email. I put it on dropbox > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31543901/petomse.zip > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 28 Sep 2011, at 09:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > I just sent the code to the mailing list. > > I will send it privately if it is not accepted by the list. > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 28 Sep 2011, at 08:31, Usman Bhatti wrote: > > > >> Alex, > >> > >> If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) > >> > >> thanx > >> > >> Usman > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry, I missed this email > >>> We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > >>> > >>> Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > >> > >> But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > >> what is the license of CCI? > >> > >> CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. > >> > >> Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) > >> From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license > >> > >> Comparison of the two frameworks: > >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages > >> + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Alexandre > >>> > >>> > >>> On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>> > >>>> alex can you reply? > >>>> > >>>> Stef > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> what model did you extract? > >>>>> inside methods? > >>>>> symbol resolved? > >>>>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> Alexandre > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>>>> [hidden email] > >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>>> [hidden email] > >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> -- > >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moose-dev mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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ok i'll upload it somewhere ...
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Could we add all the code in a svn somewhere? _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I added the project here with some related info from the mail on the list. If someone needs access, send me a mail.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: ok i'll upload it somewhere ... _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I like the idea, but we should be cautious. As you can see, the source are Microsoft copyrighted. Peli and I did this as a proof of concept and as an opportunity to code together. We did not talk about distributing it.
I will talk to him about that. Alexandre On 9 Oct 2011, at 07:55, Usman Bhatti wrote: > I added the project here with some related info from the mail on the list. > > http://code.google.com/p/moosecciextractor/ > > If someone needs access, send me a mail. > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: > ok i'll upload it somewhere ... > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > Could we add all the code in a svn somewhere? > > Stef > > On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > > > tx > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Apparently, gmail does not like my email. I put it on dropbox > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31543901/petomse.zip > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 28 Sep 2011, at 09:26, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > > > I just sent the code to the mailing list. > > > I will send it privately if it is not accepted by the list. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > > > On 28 Sep 2011, at 08:31, Usman Bhatti wrote: > > > > > >> Alex, > > >> > > >> If you could share the code that you create with MS guys, it would be great ... just to compare the two implementations and learn a few lessons :-) > > >> > > >> thanx > > >> > > >> Usman > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Usman Bhatti <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > >> > > >>> Sorry, I missed this email > > >>> We simply extract the class declaration, attributes, methods and their invocations. We also say whether a method is public or not, whether it is abstract. > > >>> > > >>> Nothing about the AST. Quite simple actually. The CCI looks quite expressive. > > >> > > >> But I do not understand how you can do invocations without AST analysis? > > >> what is the license of CCI? > > >> > > >> CCI and Mono.Cecil (that we use for VerveineSharp) provide libraries to manipulate MSIL (i.e. MS byte code), hence these are competing frameworks... since we are working on the byte code therefore it is not needed to touch AST. Hence, one can go very fast to create static analyzers with these tools. > > >> > > >> Licence: Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL) > > >> From here: http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com/license > > >> > > >> Comparison of the two frameworks: > > >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6727715/cci-vs-mono-cecil-advantages-and-disadvantages > > >> + Mono. Cecil community is much more vibrant .. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Alexandre > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 27 Sep 2011, at 04:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> alex can you reply? > > >>>> > > >>>> Stef > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> what model did you extract? > > >>>>> inside methods? > > >>>>> symbol resolved? > > >>>>> because get package, class and inheritance should be simple. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi ! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Yesterday I spent about 30 minutes with a guy from microsoft to generate .mse from C#. We were able to extract the data and generate the mse. I was happy to have a blueprint complexity after such a short amount of time. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Usman, we use http://ccimetadata.codeplex.com for extracting the data. I can share the code if you wish. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> Alexandre > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list > > >>>>>> [hidden email] > > >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list > > >>>>> [hidden email] > > >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Moose-dev mailing list > > >>>> [hidden email] > > >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > > >>> [hidden email] > > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Moose-dev mailing list > > >> [hidden email] > > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Moose-dev mailing list > > >> [hidden email] > > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > > -- > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > [hidden email] > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: I like the idea, but we should be cautious. As you can see, the source are Microsoft copyrighted. Peli and I did this as a proof of concept and as an opportunity to code together. We did not talk about distributing it. Ok let me know, and I'll remove the code from the svn or make it private, if possible.
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