I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification
send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. May be this is not the same version running. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 11 October 2010 17:49, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification > send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. > May be this is not the same version running. It is disabled because of the excessive processing power that this requires. And the server is already at the limit. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Maybe on a separate mailing list.
Cheers, Alexandre On 11 Oct 2010, at 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification > send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. > May be this is not the same version running. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
It is not the mailing list that is the problem, it is the
squeaksource.com server that is. It takes several minutes to calculate a simple diff of a single version and that just kills responsiveness at the current rate of commits. Lukas On 11 October 2010 18:01, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Maybe on a separate mailing list. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 11 Oct 2010, at 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification >> send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. >> May be this is not the same version running. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
> It is not the mailing list that is the problem, it is the > squeaksource.com server that is. It takes several minutes to calculate > a simple diff of a single version and that just kills responsiveness > at the current rate of commits. That seems to be a really high number. I just compared a version of the CollectionTests package in Squeak 4.2 with a Pharo version. The two are totally different, there are 2002 changes. Parsing both packages and creating the diffs takes less than a second with Cog. So it's probably less than 3 seconds with the standard VM. And this is an edge case. Levente > > Lukas > > On 11 October 2010 18:01, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Maybe on a separate mailing list. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 11 Oct 2010, at 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification >>> send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. >>> May be this is not the same version running. >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Ok I see
INRIA told us that they will allocate some time of their busy engineer for the web-dav server. Once we have that we could host any pharo/squeak projects. Now we will not have squeaksource.... :( But for pharo we need a scriptable interface because we are losing time moving package around. Stef > On 11 October 2010 17:49, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification >> send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. >> May be this is not the same version running. > > It is disabled because of the excessive processing power that this > requires. And the server is already at the limit. Ok this is sad because I would like that people can see published code. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> It is not the mailing list that is the problem, it is the
>> squeaksource.com server that is. It takes several minutes to calculate >> a simple diff of a single version and that just kills responsiveness >> at the current rate of commits. > > That seems to be a really high number. I just compared a version of the > CollectionTests package in Squeak 4.2 with a Pharo version. The two are totally different, there are 2002 changes. Parsing both packages and creating the diffs takes less than a second with Cog. So it's probably less than 3 seconds with the standard VM. And this is an edge case. > this is true that squeaksource is central and we should get it faster not slower. :-/ Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 11 October 2010 20:03, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It is not the mailing list that is the problem, it is the > squeaksource.com server that is. It takes several minutes to calculate > a simple diff of a single version and that just kills responsiveness > at the current rate of commits. > Its not necessary to do diff processing on squeaksource.com host. Another host could simply watch repositor(ies), and then download new versions and do diff & email it to mailing list. > Lukas > > On 11 October 2010 18:01, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Maybe on a separate mailing list. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 11 Oct 2010, at 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification >>> send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. >>> May be this is not the same version running. >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
I've played similar games for a long time. Originally, I had to run on a Novell network, and it was a BSOD waiting to happen. So, I added a machine with the Novell client that did nothing but use a mapped drive to read from a source and push data over TCP/IP to my server, which happily no longer ran the Novell client, and hence did not throw a BSOD twice or more each week.
Some time after that, I realized that the second machine could do more to help the server, and it ended up doing a fair amount of crunching, sending only summary data to the server. Works great. It's more boxes to maintain, but otherwise it's a nice arrangement. Bill ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Igor Stasenko [[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:38 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] how to get the diff on commit on the pharo source? On 11 October 2010 20:03, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > It is not the mailing list that is the problem, it is the > squeaksource.com server that is. It takes several minutes to calculate > a simple diff of a single version and that just kills responsiveness > at the current rate of commits. > Its not necessary to do diff processing on squeaksource.com host. Another host could simply watch repositor(ies), and then download new versions and do diff & email it to mailing list. > Lukas > > On 11 October 2010 18:01, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Maybe on a separate mailing list. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 11 Oct 2010, at 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> I would really like to have the same behavior than the squeak system ie having the source modification >>> send to the list. I could not see how to set it up on squeaksource. >>> May be this is not the same version running. >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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