Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow.
I am the only one seeing this? thanks -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com |
On 03 Apr 2012, at 11:34, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. > The site is not down, but terrible slow. > I am the only one seeing this? Yes, sometimes it feels a bit slow for certain operations. But in doing my own MC storage ( http://mc.stfx.eu ) I came to the conclusion that the speed of the storage, although important, is not the only factor contributing to MC feeling slow for your daily work. MC does many operations that are often not really necessary (always checking in all related repos, updating indexes; these make repo X feel slow even though it is really repo Y). We have to support the work started by Camillo (speeding up local cache and much more, questioning every long held assumption). Sven smime.p7s (5K) Download Attachment |
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you cannot work. But in doing my own MC storage ( http://mc.stfx.eu ) I came to the conclusion that the speed of the storage, although important, is not the only factor contributing to MC feeling slow for your daily work. +9999 MC does many operations that are often not really necessary (always checking in all related repos, updating indexes; these make repo X feel slow even though it is really repo Y). +9999 Sven -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com |
On 03 Apr 2012, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you cannot work. Perhaps it is worthwhile to adapt another workflow? My personal projects reside all in /home/smarr/.monticello and I use that as my main repo. I commit to that one, and only if I really want to do a 'push' like with git, I copy stuff to public repos. Works very smooth, even on the road. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 |
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Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. > I am the only one seeing this? it's fast from Berlin, tho… Best -tobias |
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Am 2012-04-03 um 13:03 schrieb Stefan Marr: > > On 03 Apr 2012, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you cannot work. > > Perhaps it is worthwhile to adapt another workflow? > > My personal projects reside all in /home/smarr/.monticello and I use that as my main repo. > > I commit to that one, and only if I really want to do a 'push' like with git, I copy stuff to public repos. > > Works very smooth, even on the road. If only the tools supported that better ;) The first thing I do with a new image is making a sym-link for the package-cache to my local all-images-share-this package-cache. From there on, the workflow is not unlike a hg or git one, with the notable exception that I have to copy (read: push) all local versions manually to my remote repo. Best -Tobias |
On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Tobias Pape wrote: > > Am 2012-04-03 um 13:03 schrieb Stefan Marr: > >> >> On 03 Apr 2012, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you cannot work. >> >> Perhaps it is worthwhile to adapt another workflow? >> >> My personal projects reside all in /home/smarr/.monticello and I use that as my main repo. >> >> I commit to that one, and only if I really want to do a 'push' like with git, I copy stuff to public repos. >> >> Works very smooth, even on the road. > > If only the tools supported that better ;) but with Gofer you can sync your local…. STef > The first thing I do with a new image is making > a sym-link for the package-cache to my local > all-images-share-this package-cache. > From there on, the workflow is not unlike a > hg or git one, with the notable exception that > I have to copy (read: push) all local versions > manually to my remote repo. > > Best > -Tobias > > |
Am 2012-04-03 um 16:33 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Tobias Pape wrote: > >> >> Am 2012-04-03 um 13:03 schrieb Stefan Marr: >> >>> >>> On 03 Apr 2012, at 12:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, but this is different. It is now just slow, it is slow enough to get a timeout exception for the most basic stuff. In other words, you cannot work. >>> >>> Perhaps it is worthwhile to adapt another workflow? >>> >>> My personal projects reside all in /home/smarr/.monticello and I use that as my main repo. >>> >>> I commit to that one, and only if I really want to do a 'push' like with git, I copy stuff to public repos. >>> >>> Works very smooth, even on the road. >> >> If only the tools supported that better ;) > > but with Gofer you can sync your local…. > sure. but actually, i only want to 'push' the missing versions and, even more important, I want a non-DoIt way (ie, a button) for it. You know, when I first saw that it is possible to 'copy' a version to different repos from the ui, i was thrilled… but it takes too much time to copy 10 versions to 3 repos. Gofer is better but not yet good in this regard ;) best -tobias |
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Mariano,
We are on shared hardware in the VMware data center and I've seen occasional high i/o delays that are not related to GemStone activity...we're looking into this... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> | To: "Pharo Development" <[hidden email]> | Cc: "Dale Henrichs" <[hidden email]>, "Tobias Pape" <[hidden email]> | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:34:21 AM | Subject: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow? | | Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs | all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. | I am the only one seeing this? | | thanks | | -- | Mariano | http://marianopeck.wordpress.com | | |
We are in the process of tracking down the root cause of inordinate i/o delays on http://ss3.gemstone.com[1].
In the meantime, we're going to tweak some of the system settings and will cycle the stone. The plan is to cycle the stone this afternoon at 2PM PDT and the system should be down for just a few minutes ... if that will cause any inconvenience let me know and I'll reschedule ... Dale [1] http://forum.world.st/http-ss3-gemstone-com-is-EXTREMELY-slow-td4528259.html |
Thanks Dale for taking care :)
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote: We are in the process of tracking down the root cause of inordinate i/o delays on http://ss3.gemstone.com[1]. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com |
Mariano,
This downtime won't get us out of the woods ... there's something funky going on with i/o, but it should help a bit ... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> | To: "Pharo Development" <[hidden email]> | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:34:03 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] SS3 downtime - today 2pm PDT | | Thanks Dale for taking care :) | | | On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Dale Henrichs < [hidden email] > | wrote: | | | We are in the process of tracking down the root cause of inordinate | i/o delays on http://ss3.gemstone.com [1]. | | In the meantime, we're going to tweak some of the system settings and | will cycle the stone. | | The plan is to cycle the stone this afternoon at 2PM PDT and the | system should be down for just a few minutes ... if that will cause | any inconvenience let me know and I'll reschedule ... | | Dale | | [1] | http://forum.world.st/http-ss3-gemstone-com-is-EXTREMELY-slow-td4528259.html | | | | | -- | Mariano | http://marianopeck.wordpress.com | | |
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On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: > > Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > >> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. >> I am the only one seeing this? > > it's fast from Berlin, tho… While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted into the issue tracker? And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is loading. Best regards Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 |
Am 2012-04-03 um 19:52 schrieb Stefan Marr: > > On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: > >> >> Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: >> >>> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. >>> I am the only one seeing this? >> >> it's fast from Berlin, tho… > > While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted into the issue tracker? Yes I have. Some of them are solved and being staged onto ss3, which hopefully will happen soon ;) I'll take care of the rest of the issues once my currently primary issue is resolved … > > And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? > Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is loading. Hmm, doesn't happen at http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource so this should be resolved and being staged, too :) best -Tobias |
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We pushed SS3 out last summer as an Alpha because SS3 looked like it could be a better alternative to SqueakSource, so it was opened for general use "known bugs and all"... there are a number of "known bugs" that have been fixed and they are in the queue waiting on a number of open bugs/tasks that still need to be fixed before we can upgrade SS3[1][2] ...
The particular issue you have is most likely related to the current i/o problems, which we are working on addressing ... Dale [1] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Dtask&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles [2] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Ddefect&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stefan Marr" <[hidden email]> | To: "[hidden email] Pharo" <[hidden email]>, "Tobias Pape" | <[hidden email]> | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:52:11 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow? | | | On 03 Apr 2012, at 15:12, Tobias Pape wrote: | | > | > Am 2012-04-03 um 11:34 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: | > | >> Hi guys. I cannot work today with SS3 because it gives me time | >> outs all the time. The site is not down, but terrible slow. | >> I am the only one seeing this? | > | > it's fast from Berlin, tho… | | While we are complaining: did anyone ever look at the issues I posted | into the issue tracker? | And, did anyone ever use the project search and got a result back? | Every time I try to use the search, I do not seem to get a proper | HTTP response and the browser is just indicating that it is | loading. | | | Best regards | Stefan | | -- | Stefan Marr | Software Languages Lab | Vrije Universiteit Brussel | Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium | http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr | Phone: +32 2 629 2974 | Fax: +32 2 629 3525 | | | |
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And the version pushed will be +1 each time isn't it?
How do I put the same version to two places?
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Hi Dale:
On 03 Apr 2012, at 20:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: > [1] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Dtask&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles > [2] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Ddefect&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles Think I made the mistake assuming that you guys eat your own dog food ;) http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/ss3.html/Issues Perhaps that should be disabled and include a note about the issue tracker on the overview page? Thanks Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 |
Good point:) The Issues list in SS3 is not quite as full-featured as the one on Google:)
Good point about disabling it though ... There is a note about the issue tracker on the SS3 Home page, but not on the SS3 project page ... good point. Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stefan Marr" <[hidden email]> | To: [hidden email] | Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:32:39 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] http://ss3.gemstone.com/ is EXTREMELY slow? | | Hi Dale: | | On 03 Apr 2012, at 20:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: | | > [1] | > http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Dtask&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles | > [2] | > http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3D3.0-rc2+type%3Ddefect&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Version+Milestone+Owner+Verified+Summary&cells=tiles | | Think I made the mistake assuming that you guys eat your own dog food | ;) | | http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/ss3.html/Issues | | Perhaps that should be disabled and include a note about the issue | tracker on the overview page? | | | Thanks | Stefan | | | | | -- | Stefan Marr | Software Languages Lab | Vrije Universiteit Brussel | Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium | http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr | Phone: +32 2 629 2974 | Fax: +32 2 629 3525 | | | |
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Am 2012-04-03 um 20:24 schrieb [hidden email]: > And the version pushed will be +1 each time isn't it? > > How do I put the same version to two places? when you commit a version, you get a window with several options, eg, browse … diff… etc. The last is ‘copy’ click on it and you can copy the very same version to different repos. This does not work with the ‘save’ button in the working copy overview. ‘save’ -> commit ‘copy’ -> push. best -tobias |
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey, I'd vote for changing the buttons' labels!
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