Can be interesting for seasiders. I think that we will see other of
these ideas popping up in the future. A web site to host/develop/compose web applications http://www.salesforce.com/platform/ Stef _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Our company has been using Salesforce.com since 2004. It's a great platform.
One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to Salesforce from a Squeak image. It requires SSL. On Jan 31, 2008 3:35 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > Can be interesting for seasiders. I think that we will see other of > these ideas popping up in the future. > > A web site to host/develop/compose web applications > > http://www.salesforce.com/platform/ > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to > Salesforce from a Squeak image. Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps? Or do you want to implement your own Squeak SalesForce app that your users would access through browsers (if that even possible)? Or something else? - Sophie (Not a SalesForce expert, but interested) _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps. Salesforce hosts
our data, users interact with it via many interfaces, but we still run servers to automatically update data in Salesforce (to keep it sane) and to integrate our internal services with Salesforce. Currently those servers are written in (blegh*!*!@#&*!) Java. Having a Squeak server to do all of this would be really nice!! On Jan 31, 2008 9:00 PM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > > One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to > > Salesforce from a Squeak image. > > Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps? Or do you want to > implement your own Squeak SalesForce app that your users would access > through browsers (if that even possible)? Or something else? > > - Sophie > (Not a SalesForce expert, but interested) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Jason Rogers wrote:
> Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps. Salesforce hosts > our data, users interact with it via many interfaces, but we still run > servers to automatically update data in Salesforce (to keep it sane) > and to integrate our internal services with Salesforce. Currently > those servers are written in (blegh*!*!@#&*!) Java. > > Having a Squeak server to do all of this would be really nice!! Out of curiosity what is the problem connecting with Squeak? It looks like a plain Soap interface from a glance at the docs (http://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api/apex_api.pdf). Cheers, - Andreas > > On Jan 31, 2008 9:00 PM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: >> "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message >>> One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to >>> Salesforce from a Squeak image. >> Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps? Or do you want to >> implement your own Squeak SalesForce app that your users would access >> through browsers (if that even possible)? Or something else? >> >> - Sophie >> (Not a SalesForce expert, but interested) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
2008/2/1, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>:
> Jason Rogers wrote: > > Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps. Salesforce hosts > > our data, users interact with it via many interfaces, but we still run > > servers to automatically update data in Salesforce (to keep it sane) > > and to integrate our internal services with Salesforce. Currently > > those servers are written in (blegh*!*!@#&*!) Java. > > > > Having a Squeak server to do all of this would be really nice!! > > Out of curiosity what is the problem connecting with Squeak? It looks > like a plain Soap interface from a glance at the docs > (http://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api/apex_api.pdf). "plain Soap" Cheers Philippe > Cheers, > - Andreas > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 9:00 PM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > >>> One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to > >>> Salesforce from a Squeak image. > >> Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps? Or do you want to > >> implement your own Squeak SalesForce app that your users would access > >> through browsers (if that even possible)? Or something else? > >> > >> - Sophie > >> (Not a SalesForce expert, but interested) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> seaside mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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The SSL connection / certificate is the issue. The SOAP and/or XMLRPC
can be negotiated easily, even if it means crafting the SOAP envelopes by hand. On Feb 1, 2008 1:02 AM, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote: > Jason Rogers wrote: > > Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps. Salesforce hosts > > our data, users interact with it via many interfaces, but we still run > > servers to automatically update data in Salesforce (to keep it sane) > > and to integrate our internal services with Salesforce. Currently > > those servers are written in (blegh*!*!@#&*!) Java. > > > > Having a Squeak server to do all of this would be really nice!! > > Out of curiosity what is the problem connecting with Squeak? It looks > like a plain Soap interface from a glance at the docs > (http://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api/apex_api.pdf). > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 9:00 PM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > >>> One thing I have always wanted since then was to be able to connect to > >>> Salesforce from a Squeak image. > >> Using Squeak as a client for some Salesforce apps? Or do you want to > >> implement your own Squeak SalesForce app that your users would access > >> through browsers (if that even possible)? Or something else? > >> > >> - Sophie > >> (Not a SalesForce expert, but interested) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> seaside mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >> > > > > > > > > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2008/2/1, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>: >> Out of curiosity what is the problem connecting with Squeak? It looks >> like a plain Soap interface from a glance at the docs >> (http://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api/apex_api.pdf). > > "plain Soap" Okay, I'll play along ;-) Given that you are surely aware of http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1399 which lists three frameworks for Soap, what's the problem? [BTW, I'm not just randomly asking - as it so happens I'll probably have to look at talking to Salesforce in the next couple of months] Cheers, -Andreas _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
2008/2/1, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>:
> Philippe Marschall wrote: > > 2008/2/1, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>: > >> Out of curiosity what is the problem connecting with Squeak? It looks > >> like a plain Soap interface from a glance at the docs > >> (http://www.salesforce.com/us/developer/docs/api/apex_api.pdf). > > > > "plain Soap" > > Okay, I'll play along ;-) Given that you are surely aware of > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1399 which lists three frameworks for > Soap, what's the problem? SOAP itself. It is simply not interoperable despite WS-I. The sole existence of WS-I actually says a lot about SOAP. Cincom invested and still does heavy resources on WS-*, just check out "James Robertson: Cincom Smalltalk's VisualWorks and .NET White Paper". Yet still, after all those years and resources they gave up on achieving interoperability with the SAP SOAP implementation. I'm sure both implementations are perfectly compliant to the SOAP spec. Instead they decided to write a proprietary connector (without SOAP). Cheers Philippe > [BTW, I'm not just randomly asking - as it so happens I'll probably have > to look at talking to Salesforce in the next couple of months] > > Cheers, > -Andreas > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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> The SSL connection / certificate is the issue. Could you use a lower-level solution outside squeak ? e.g. stunnel http://www.visoracle.com/squeak/faq/stunnel.html - Sophie _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
I tried stunnel-ing once, but was not successful at setting it up.
On Feb 2, 2008 11:19 AM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > > The SSL connection / certificate is the issue. > > Could you use a lower-level solution outside squeak ? e.g. stunnel > http://www.visoracle.com/squeak/faq/stunnel.html > > - Sophie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Hi Jason,
There is a SSL package that works quite well for squeak. 1) load the cryptography package from squeak source. 2) get yourself a certificate from CACert (www.cacert.com) 3) import the cert using Rob's PCKS reader 4) start the ssl server if you need to be a server or us the ssl client to connect to the server. (if you are only connecting with the client you don't need a certificate) There is an SSL workspace that will open up when you load the code that has examples of both the server and the client. I've been using our SSL code and it works quite well. Oh and make sure you have the DESPlugin plugin code for windows, or build the plugin for other platforms. The performance may not be adequate without it. Hope that helps, Ron Teitelbaum Squeak Cryptography Team Leader > From: Jason Rogers > > I tried stunnel-ing once, but was not successful at setting it up. > > On Feb 2, 2008 11:19 AM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > > "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > > > The SSL connection / certificate is the issue. > > > > Could you use a lower-level solution outside squeak ? e.g. stunnel > > http://www.visoracle.com/squeak/faq/stunnel.html > > > > - Sophie > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > > > -- > Jason Rogers > > "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; > yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life > which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of > the Son of God, who loved me, and gave > himself for me." > Galatians 2:20 > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Ah thx! Will try soon.
On Feb 3, 2008 8:27 PM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Jason, > > There is a SSL package that works quite well for squeak. > > 1) load the cryptography package from squeak source. > 2) get yourself a certificate from CACert (www.cacert.com) > 3) import the cert using Rob's PCKS reader > 4) start the ssl server if you need to be a server or us the ssl client to > connect to the server. (if you are only connecting with the client you > don't need a certificate) > > There is an SSL workspace that will open up when you load the code that has > examples of both the server and the client. I've been using our SSL code > and it works quite well. Oh and make sure you have the DESPlugin plugin > code for windows, or build the plugin for other platforms. The performance > may not be adequate without it. > > Hope that helps, > > Ron Teitelbaum > Squeak Cryptography Team Leader > > > > From: Jason Rogers > > > > > I tried stunnel-ing once, but was not successful at setting it up. > > > > On Feb 2, 2008 11:19 AM, itsme213 <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > "Jason Rogers" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > > > > The SSL connection / certificate is the issue. > > > > > > Could you use a lower-level solution outside squeak ? e.g. stunnel > > > http://www.visoracle.com/squeak/faq/stunnel.html > > > > > > - Sophie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > seaside mailing list > > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jason Rogers > > > > "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; > > yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life > > which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of > > the Son of God, who loved me, and gave > > himself for me." > > Galatians 2:20 > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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