ideas for mini-projects
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In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi! > > In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. > > Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? Yes sure ;-) How much time do they have for their projects ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo.
I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). Alexandre On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. >> >> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? > > Yes sure ;-) > How much time do they have for their projects ? > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I'm interested to have ROASSAL visualisations of activity diagrams and
Petri Nets. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. > > I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). > > Alexandre > > > On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. >>> >>> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? >> >> Yes sure ;-) >> How much time do they have for their projects ? >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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How about some system utilities like:
* https://windirstat.info * Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure. cheers -ben Alexandre Bergel wrote: Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). Alexandre On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich [hidden email] wrote:On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel [hidden email] wrote:Hi! In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website?Yes sure ;-) How much time do they have for their projects ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thanks for both of you for your suggestion.
Cheers, Alexandre On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: > How about some system utilities like: > * https://windirstat.info > * Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure. > cheers -ben > > Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. >> >> I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich >> <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>> >>> <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site >>>> http://topics.pharo.org >>>> to have some ideas. >>>> >>>> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes sure ;-) >>> How much time do they have for their projects ? >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> >>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Do you want more detailed subjects ?
Regards On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks for both of you for your suggestion. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> How about some system utilities like: >> * https://windirstat.info >> * Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure. >> cheers -ben >> >> Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. >>> >>> I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>> <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>>> >>>> <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site >>>>> http://topics.pharo.org >>>>> to have some ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yes sure ;-) >>>> How much time do they have for their projects ? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> -- >>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>> >>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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It is a good starting point. I would like first to meet the students. No need for more details now
Alexandre > Le 02-03-2014 à 16:27, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Do you want more detailed subjects ? > > Regards > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Thanks for both of you for your suggestion. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> How about some system utilities like: >>> * https://windirstat.info >>> * Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure. >>> cheers -ben >>> >>> Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. >>>> >>>> I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>>> <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>>>> >>>>> <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site >>>>>> http://topics.pharo.org >>>>>> to have some ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? >>>>> Yes sure ;-) >>>>> How much time do they have for their projects ? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> -- >>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>>> >>>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Yes!
Alexandre On Mar 3, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Juraj Kubelka <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > there are some ideas for Roassal2: > - a builder (DSL) which will facilitate building menus as text, or as icons (or both, with fly-by-help). Menu can be permanent (on top left corner of Roassal window), dynamic on elements (context menu, on MouseEnter, on MouseClick), > - would be cool to use all kind of Apple’s gestures (zoom, rotation, movement) to manipulate with Roassal view. > > Cheers, > Jura > > El 02-03-2014, a las 16:37, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> escribió: > >> It is a good starting point. I would like first to meet the students. No need for more details now >> >> Alexandre >> >>> Le 02-03-2014 à 16:27, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>> >>> Do you want more detailed subjects ? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Thanks for both of you for your suggestion. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How about some system utilities like: >>>>> * https://windirstat.info >>>>> * Duplicate File Finder - I envisage that the thread bunching drawings would work well with copies of files being linked and bunched together along the lines of the directory tree structure. >>>>> cheers -ben >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> Not much, maybe 1.5 month, and they do not know Pharo. >>>>>> >>>>>> I usually ask them to code some small UI, create Roassal views. This year I will probably ask some to do some profilers (e.g., analyzing nil values, side effects). >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>>>>> <[hidden email]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site >>>>>>>> http://topics.pharo.org >>>>>>>> to have some ideas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? >>>>>>> Yes sure ;-) >>>>>>> How much time do they have for their projects ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>>>>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>>>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Alexandre implementing the way arie van deursen group and report metric would be good.
This is quite simple. I sent the paper a while ago in the moose mailing-list but I cannot find it anymore. (I spent one hour). Setf On 24 Feb 2014, at 21:21, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi! > > In March we will start our lecture about Pharo and Moose. We will give to each student one or two small projects to work on during the semester. We went through the site http://topics.pharo.org to have some ideas. > > Is there anything you would like to see that is not on the topics website? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Probably this one?
Yes, it would nice to have metrics thresholds and the visualizations implemented in Moose. regards, Usman
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Alexandre implementing the way arie van deursen group and report metric would be good. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Probably this one?
(earlier, I wanted to send the pdf of the paper but the msg didn't get through). Yes, it would nice to have the metrics thresholds system and the associated visualizations implemented in Moose.
regards, Usman On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: Alexandre implementing the way arie van deursen group and report metric would be good. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Tiago Alves PhD Thesis has some more details:
Benchmark-based Software Product Quality Evaluation (easy to google) Stephan _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:05, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: That tool is awesome. It’s helped me a lot to save HDD space by finding big piles of junk.
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Pablo Estefó wrote:
Yeah :) Now if people start saying the same about an end-user application that just "happens" to be developed in Pharo - which they have access to customise the source code - then I think that is a path to lead people to our promised land. So we need to consider the path people will take. 1. Have a need for some small niche task. 2. Searching for an end-user App to do that task. 3. Got task done. Now looking at "advanced" features for curiosity. 4. Come across a built-in tutorial on how to extend some small part of the App. They still don't know its "Smalltalk" 5. Digging deeper leads to "Wow!", and our job is done :) The trick is to capture peoples attention before that decide they need to learn a new programming language. And these days its all about attention! There are so many other distractions. Learning a new language can seem a big commitment, whereas each of those steps is a small thing that they already wanted to do. cheers, Ben
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