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My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL |
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I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL |
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From where can i download oz for pharo 3? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL |
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In reply to this post by pdigonzelli1
Yes. Copy it over the new changes file and try 'recover changes' from the world menu. Maybe drag and drop works too. Phil |
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In reply to this post by pdigonzelli1
Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
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I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a .changes file with an editor. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: [hidden email] Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
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Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do not know about the other platforms).
Phil
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Yes , Phil. I recover my work using the .changes file of corrupted image and I recover my work with "Recover lost changes" tool. Thanks a lot! Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: [hidden email] Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 16:18:52 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do not know about the other platforms).
Phil
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli <[hidden email]> wrote:
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In reply to this post by pdigonzelli1
Normally you can replay your changes. Do not do that from an editor.
What you can try is to get a new image + changes and copy your changes files rto erase the new change file and try a "recover lost change" (in the tools menu). Now can you open monticello? On 28/6/14 15:42, Pablo R. Digonzelli
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In reply to this post by philippeback
Phil
there is no magic. We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite large. Stef On 28/6/14 18:10, [hidden email]
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why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct.
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In reply to this post by pdigonzelli1
On 28/6/14 22:43, Pablo R. Digonzelli
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Good. Save your work on SmalltalkHUb or related.
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In reply to this post by stepharo
On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:
yes, but this is not a VM problem but the image. is about how the image react to a socket presence when restarting.
AFAIK, is a problem on any VM not just smalltalk ones (but probably for us is more important than others).
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In my case, I made a mistake wich crashes the image. After Phil explainme how to use my changes file on a new image i recover my work i think very efficiently. Thanks for the help Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Enviados: Lunes, 30 de Junio 2014 5:21:34 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:
yes, but this is not a VM problem but the image. is about how the image react to a socket presence when restarting.
AFAIK, is a problem on any VM not just smalltalk ones (but probably for us is more important than others).
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