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jtuchel
Hi,

It seems imap is an un(der)documented feature of SST ;-)

Does anyone have a few code snippets or hints and tips for imap with VAST?

Joachim

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Re: imap with sst

jtuchel
So IMAP is a white area on VAST users' map?


Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 17:01:45 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Hi,

It seems imap is an un(der)documented feature of SST ;-)

Does anyone have a few code snippets or hints and tips for imap with VAST?

Joachim

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jtuchel
4 years ago, I was interested in using IMAP in order to receive and manage mail messages.
The Server Smalltalk Guide still has very litte to say about IMAP.

I've taken a quick look at EMan, but it seems to only support POP3, which is not enough for my needs.

Has anybody used Sst for IMAP?

Joachim




Am Dienstag, 11. November 2014 14:04:18 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
So IMAP is a white area on VAST users' map?


Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 17:01:45 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Hi,

It seems imap is an un(der)documented feature of SST ;-)

Does anyone have a few code snippets or hints and tips for imap with VAST?

Joachim

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Re: imap with sst

Long Haired David
We had a look at implementing IMAP into SocketSet but it is very complicated with a lot of messages back and forth so we left it out. It is not easy so beware.

David

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:12:51 AM UTC+1, Joachim Tuchel wrote:
4 years ago, I was interested in using IMAP in order to receive and manage mail messages.
The Server Smalltalk Guide still has very litte to say about IMAP.

I've taken a quick look at EMan, but it seems to only support POP3, which is not enough for my needs.

Has anybody used Sst for IMAP?

Joachim




Am Dienstag, 11. November 2014 14:04:18 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
So IMAP is a white area on VAST users' map?


Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 17:01:45 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Hi,

It seems imap is an un(der)documented feature of SST ;-)

Does anyone have a few code snippets or hints and tips for imap with VAST?

Joachim

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jtuchel
David,


this doesn't sound very encouraging ;-) So maybe I'll have to spend a few sleepless nights on implementing my minimally-needed subset of IMAP.
I found a few tutorials on the web that show how easy it is to talk IMAP using cURL. Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or imaps protocol. So as long as we develop on windows and deploy to Linux and VAST on Linux is a bit 'unfriendly' to its users, it seems like this doesn't actually work.

So there is this third option which : use a cron/bash script with cURL on the deployment and test machines and just emulate this on our dev machines. Maybe it's even time to add another programming language to our mix, like Python, which runs an all platforms and is much better in such 'internet basics'...

Joachim




Am Dienstag, 19. Juni 2018 16:10:36 UTC+2 schrieb Totally Objects:
We had a look at implementing IMAP into SocketSet but it is very complicated with a lot of messages back and forth so we left it out. It is not easy so beware.

David

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:12:51 AM UTC+1, Joachim Tuchel wrote:
4 years ago, I was interested in using IMAP in order to receive and manage mail messages.
The Server Smalltalk Guide still has very litte to say about IMAP.

I've taken a quick look at EMan, but it seems to only support POP3, which is not enough for my needs.

Has anybody used Sst for IMAP?

Joachim




Am Dienstag, 11. November 2014 14:04:18 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
So IMAP is a white area on VAST users' map?


Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 17:01:45 UTC+1 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Hi,

It seems imap is an un(der)documented feature of SST ;-)

Does anyone have a few code snippets or hints and tips for imap with VAST?

Joachim

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Re: imap with sst

Marten Feldtmann-5
Sure about this ?

Marten

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
 
Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or imaps protocol.


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jtuchel
Marten,

at least the versions doanloadable from curl.haxx.se as well as the version shipping with Win10 say so... :-)

Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary distro curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL command that works on Linux:

curl --url 'imaps://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“

I always get

curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl


I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows, especially if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on Windows.

Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do IMAP?


Joachim



Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
Sure about this ?

Marten

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
 
Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or imaps protocol.


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Re: imap with sst

jtuchel
Marten.



things get stranger and more interesting... I tried curl -V and look what it says:

curl 7.60.0 (x86_64-pc-win32) libcurl/7.60.0 OpenSSL/1.1.0h (WinSSL) zlib/1.2.11
 brotli/1.0.4 WinIDN libssh2/1.8.0 nghttp2/1.32.0
Release-Date: 2018-05-16
Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtsp scp sftp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile SSPI Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM SSL libz brotli TLS-SRP HTTP2 HTTPS-proxy MultiSSL

So maybe your question and this answer from cUrl just means I need to play with Paths and stuff a little more and brush the dust off my faded and aged  Windows knowledge...

Joachim





Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 12:22:19 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Marten,

at least the versions doanloadable from <a href="http://curl.haxx.se" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;">curl.haxx.se as well as the version shipping with Win10 say so... :-)

Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary distro curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL command that works on Linux:

curl --url 'imaps://<a href="http://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;">imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“

I always get

curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl


I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows, especially if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on Windows.

Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do IMAP?


Joachim



Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
Sure about this ?

Marten

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
 
Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or imaps protocol.


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Re: imap with sst

jtuchel


... same results with curl-7.60.0-win32-mingw ... so not a 64/32 bit issue.




Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 12:27:20 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Marten.



things get stranger and more interesting... I tried curl -V and look what it says:

curl 7.60.0 (x86_64-pc-win32) libcurl/7.60.0 OpenSSL/1.1.0h (WinSSL) zlib/1.2.11
 brotli/1.0.4 WinIDN libssh2/1.8.0 nghttp2/1.32.0
Release-Date: 2018-05-16
Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtsp scp sftp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile SSPI Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM SSL libz brotli TLS-SRP HTTP2 HTTPS-proxy MultiSSL

So maybe your question and this answer from cUrl just means I need to play with Paths and stuff a little more and brush the dust off my faded and aged  Windows knowledge...

Joachim





Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 12:22:19 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
Marten,

at least the versions doanloadable from <a href="http://curl.haxx.se" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;">curl.haxx.se as well as the version shipping with Win10 say so... :-)

Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary distro curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL command that works on Linux:

curl --url 'imaps://<a href="http://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;">imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“

I always get

curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl


I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows, especially if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on Windows.

Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do IMAP?


Joachim



Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
Sure about this ?

Marten

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
 
Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or imaps protocol.


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jtuchel
I hate when this happens. Once again it is my own stupidity or ignorance.

If I change from

curl --url 'imap://...'

to

curl imap://...

all is fine on Windows...


So thanks Marten for asking this provocative answer. Helped me switch on my brain ;-)

Seems like an external call to curl will be my no.1 alternative


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Marten Feldtmann-4
So, this means, you could work on my wrapper around libCurl ?

Marten

Am 21.06.2018 um 14:22 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
I hate when this happens. Once again it is my own stupidity or ignorance.

If I change from

curl --url '<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="imap://">imap://...'

to

curl <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="imap://">imap://...

all is fine on Windows...


So thanks Marten for asking this provocative answer. Helped me switch on my brain ;-)

Seems like an external call to curl will be my no.1 alternative


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I solved availability of dozens unix/linux utilities (curl, wget, sqlite3, rsync, git, mercurial, make...) on Windows 10 by installing "Windows Bash Shell":
https://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/

In fact, it's not only a "bash shell", but a complete distribution based probably on Debian/Ubuntu.
There's almost everything!

pf


> Marten,
>
> at least the versions doanloadable from curl.haxx.se as well as the version
> shipping with Win10 say so... :-)
>
> Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary distro
> curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL command
> that works on Linux:
>
> curl --url 'imaps://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“
>
> I always get
>
> curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl
>
>
> I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows, especially
> if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on
> Windows.
>
> Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do
> IMAP?
>
>
> Joachim
>
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
> >
> > Sure about this ?
> >
> > Marten
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
> >  
> >
> >> Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or
> >> imaps protocol.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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jtuchel
sounds interesting. Did you try calling out to these from VAST?

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 20:26:01 UTC+2 schrieb Petr Fischer:
I solved availability of dozens unix/linux utilities (curl, wget, sqlite3, rsync, git, mercurial, make...) on Windows 10 by installing "Windows Bash Shell":
<a href="https://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtogeek.com%2F249966%2Fhow-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGU8vl5VXetkbqGrGDYuZ7kUp4Tow&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtogeek.com%2F249966%2Fhow-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10%2F\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGU8vl5VXetkbqGrGDYuZ7kUp4Tow&#39;;return true;">https://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/

In fact, it's not only a "bash shell", but a complete distribution based probably on Debian/Ubuntu.
There's almost everything!

pf


> Marten,
>
> at least the versions doanloadable from <a href="http://curl.haxx.se" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcurl.haxx.se\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHMr7N9MQ9vRTTxOFl9N3SsITsuOg&#39;;return true;">curl.haxx.se as well as the version
> shipping with Win10 say so... :-)
>
> Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary distro
> curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL command
> that works on Linux:
>
> curl --url 'imaps://<a href="http://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fimap.xyz.de%2FINBOX%3FALL\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGWy1yXctu7muOyhEQKkfVg2ATqlw&#39;;return true;">imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“
>
> I always get
>
> curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl
>
>
> I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows, especially
> if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on
> Windows.
>
> Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do
> IMAP?
>
>
> Joachim
>
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
> >
> > Sure about this ?
> >
> > Marten
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
> >  
> >
> >> Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap or
> >> imaps protocol.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: imap with sst

jtuchel
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not yet - we're still on VAST 8.6.3 and Win/Lin 32 bits. If I understand the comments on VASTGoodies correctly, this is 64 bits.

I hope we'll soon go to 9.1 - which I've heard great things about and am eager to see in Cagliari this year!





Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 19:31:49 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
So, this means, you could work on my wrapper around libCurl ?

Marten

Am 21.06.2018 um 14:22 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
I hate when this happens. Once again it is my own stupidity or ignorance.

If I change from

curl --url 'imap://...'

to

curl imap://...

all is fine on Windows...


So thanks Marten for asking this provocative answer. Helped me switch on my brain ;-)

Seems like an external call to curl will be my no.1 alternative


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Re: imap with sst

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Yes, you can call internal Linux binaries from outside the Windows 10 Bash Shell:

https://www.howtogeek.com/262086/how-to-run-linux-commands-from-outside-the-bash-shell-on-windows-10/

So, from VAST (or Windows cmd, or WIndows batch file), you can call:

bash -c "curl https://google.com"
bash -c "git --help"
bash -c "apt-get install python"
etc.

and voila... still unbelievable for me...

pf

> sounds interesting. Did you try calling out to these from VAST?
>
> Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 20:26:01 UTC+2 schrieb Petr Fischer:
> >
> > I solved availability of dozens unix/linux utilities (curl, wget, sqlite3,
> > rsync, git, mercurial, make...) on Windows 10 by installing "Windows Bash
> > Shell":
> >
> > https://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/ 
> >
> > In fact, it's not only a "bash shell", but a complete distribution based
> > probably on Debian/Ubuntu.
> > There's almost everything!
> >
> > pf
> >
> >
> > > Marten,
> > >
> > > at least the versions doanloadable from curl.haxx.se as well as the
> > version
> > > shipping with Win10 say so... :-)
> > >
> > > Inspired by your question I tried downloading the very latest binary
> > distro
> > > curl-7.60.0-win64-mingw with SSL enabled. When I try the same cURL
> > command
> > > that works on Linux:
> > >
> > > curl --url 'imaps://imap.xyz.de/INBOX?ALL' --user "[hidden email]:MyPW“
> > >
> > > I always get
> > >
> > > curl: (1) Protocol "'imaps" not supported or disabled in libcurl
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't have the tool chain to build my own binary for Windows,
> > especially
> > > if I have no idea if there isn't a (good?) reason for disabling imap on
> > > Windows.
> > >
> > > Do you know of or have a binary cURL distribution on Windows that can do
> > > IMAP?
> > >
> > >
> > > Joachim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 09:28:52 UTC+2 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
> > > >
> > > > Sure about this ?
> > > >
> > > > Marten
> > > >
> > > > Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2018 08:40:13 UTC+2 schrieb Joachim Tuchel:
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >> Unfortunately, the windows version of cURL doesn't support the imap
> > or
> > > >> imaps protocol.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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