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Bill Kerr
there was a great kedama tutorial by linda kao on the old squeakland site but I can't find it anywhere now

does anyone have an url or copy for it / of it?

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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Karl Ramberg
Hi, 
here is a link to the old one:


Karl


On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Bill Kerr <[hidden email]> wrote:
there was a great kedama tutorial by linda kao on the old squeakland site but I can't find it anywhere now

does anyone have an url or copy for it / of it?

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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Korakurider-2
Hi, Yoshiki,

Do you think any reason to drop this great tutorial from "the new
squeakland" site
(while I know Kedama has some incompatibility) ?

If required changes is just to replace screenshot,
I think we could make it public as-is and people could contribute.

/Korakurider

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:28 AM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
> here is a link to the old one:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20080617192213/http://www.squeakland.org/fun_projects/kedama/kedma_welcome.htm
>
> Karl
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Bill Kerr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> there was a great kedama tutorial by linda kao on the old squeakland site
>> but I can't find it anywhere now
>> does anyone have an url or copy for it / of it?
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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:00:00 +0900,
Korakurider wrote:
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> Hi, Yoshiki,
>
> Do you think any reason to drop this great tutorial from "the new
> squeakland" site
> (while I know Kedama has some incompatibility) ?

  The compatibility seems relatively small, but there is one thing I
consider to be critical difference.  If you follow the instruction and
create "infect" script and call it from 'setup", it doesn't work as
described.  The content of the infect needs to be inlined in the setup
(and in "oneStep").

> If required changes is just to replace screenshot,
> I think we could make it public as-is and people could contribute.

  So, some changes should be desirable, unfortunately.  But still, it
would be nice to have tutorials available...

-- Yoshiki
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Korakurider-2
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  So, some changes should be desirable, unfortunately.  But still, it
> would be nice to have tutorials available...
    Unless you will write something, why do you want to people to
write tutorial from scratch?

    I think the better way for sqF/vpri to facilitate contribution would be:
     + To collect some of historical contents and make them public on
wiki, with caution of version incompatibility and invitation to people
to retrofit.
     + to arrange license so that people could freely
distribute/modify/translate materials.
         (IIRC original material didn't show CC-like condition)

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Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:48:03 +0900,
Korakurider wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >  So, some changes should be desirable, unfortunately.  But still, it
> > would be nice to have tutorials available...
>     Unless you will write something, why do you want to people to
> write tutorial from scratch?

  Hmm? I didn't say I want people to write tutorials from scratch.
I'd say it would be nice if somebody takes it and revise it.  Exactly
as you suggested.

>     I think the better way for sqF/vpri to facilitate contribution would be:
>      + To collect some of historical contents and make them public on
> wiki, with caution of version incompatibility and invitation to people
> to retrofit.
>      + to arrange license so that people could freely
> distribute/modify/translate materials.
>          (IIRC original material didn't show CC-like condition)

  Sounds good to me.

-- Yoshiki
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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Korakurider-2
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:

> At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:48:03 +0900,
> Korakurider wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >  So, some changes should be desirable, unfortunately.  But still, it
>> > would be nice to have tutorials available...
>>     Unless you will write something, why do you want to people to
>> write tutorial from scratch?
>
>  Hmm? I didn't say I want people to write tutorials from scratch.
> I'd say it would be nice if somebody takes it and revise it.  Exactly
> as you suggested.
   My comment was about your organizations hiding historical contents.

>
>>     I think the better way for sqF/vpri to facilitate contribution would be:
>>      + To collect some of historical contents and make them public on
>> wiki, with caution of version incompatibility and invitation to people
>> to retrofit.
>>      + to arrange license so that people could freely
>> distribute/modify/translate materials.
>>          (IIRC original material didn't show CC-like condition)
>
>  Sounds good to me.
>
> -- Yoshiki
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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:23:53 +0900,
Korakurider wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:48:03 +0900,
> > Korakurider wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >  So, some changes should be desirable, unfortunately.  But still, it
> >> > would be nice to have tutorials available...
> >>     Unless you will write something, why do you want to people to
> >> write tutorial from scratch?
> >
> >  Hmm? I didn't say I want people to write tutorials from scratch.
> > I'd say it would be nice if somebody takes it and revise it.  Exactly
> > as you suggested.
>    My comment was about your organizations hiding historical contents.

  Ah, "hiding" is not accurate.  Right after Bill's inquery, we did
ask the old site's master to dig the original up.  But I would think
that what I see on the archive.org is all it was.

-- Yoshiki
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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
  The "source" of the PDF version, the Word document file was found.
So, I uploaded the file to:

http://wiki.squeakland.org/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=16844

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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

Karl Ramberg
On 2009-11-25 18:08, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
  The "source" of the PDF version, the Word document file was found.
So, I uploaded the file to:

http://wiki.squeakland.org/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=16844

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Great,
can we use this on http://en.flossmanuals.net/ ?


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Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:56 +0100,
Karl Ramberg wrote:

>
> On 2009-11-25 18:08, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>
>       The "source" of the PDF version, the Word document file was found.
>     So, I uploaded the file to:
>    
>     http://wiki.squeakland.org/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=16844
>    
>     -- Yoshiki
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> Great,
> can we use this on http://en.flossmanuals.net/ ?

  Kim (the executive director of VPRI, who funded making the
document) says it is perfectly fine to make it public so it should be
fine to use it for the FLOSS manual.

-- Yoshiki
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Korakurider-2
It is really great we finally "rescue" historical contents!

The tutorial have example projects attached.  Where will we maintain
them (revised for newer version of Etoys)?
of course Showcase is one option, but it seems better if flossmanuals
can manage such materials for translation and distribution,

/Korakurider

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kim Rose <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, this work was created by Viewpoints and a graduate student at UCLA who
> was an intern for us at the time.
> We hope  it can prove helpful to any Etoys users.
>
> Kim
>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>
>> At Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:25:56 +0100,
>> Karl Ramberg wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2009-11-25 18:08, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>>>
>>>     The "source" of the PDF version, the Word document file was found.
>>>   So, I uploaded the file to:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://wiki.squeakland.org/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=16844
>>>
>>>   -- Yoshiki
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>>>   http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
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>>> Great,
>>> can we use this on http://en.flossmanuals.net/ ?
>>
>>  Kim (the executive director of VPRI, who funded making the
>> document) says it is perfectly fine to make it public so it should be
>> fine to use it for the FLOSS manual.
>>
>> -- Yoshiki
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Re: kedama tutorial by linda kao

p.a.dreyfuss@excite.com
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Hi,
I'm revisiting our pages about Kedama on the french squeak wiki .(in french)
http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Kedama

I have found an older tutorial that we have translated:
http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/kedama/

Kedama prime sieve and moving bakground on showcase are the first projects adapted to Etoy's particules.

This mean that I can do the job of revisiting the tutorials.
I just need a short information about the changes of the new Kedama.


Regards





-----Original Message-----
From: "Karl Ramberg" [[hidden email]]
Date: 11/26/2009 01:53 AM
To: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [squeakland] kedama tutorial by linda kao

On 2009-11-25 18:08, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: The "source" of the PDF version, the Word document file was found. So, I uploaded the file to: http://wiki.squeakland.org/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=16844-- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list [hidden email]://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland Great,
can we use this on http://en.flossmanuals.net/ ?


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