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may be we should simply remove that item.
menu system keyboard shortcuts Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Friday, July 31, 2009, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> may be we should simply remove that item. > menu > system > keyboard shortcuts yes > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- -- Marcus Denker -- [hidden email] http://www.marcusdenker.de _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
why? is there other way newbie and not so newbie people can see the list of shortcuts? Using the mouse is ugly for me and I try to use shortcut as much as possible.
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On 01.08.2009, at 18:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Friday, July 31, 2009, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > may be we should simply remove that item. > > menu > > system > > keyboard shortcuts > > yes > > why? is there other way newbie and not so newbie people can see the > list of shortcuts? Using the mouse is ugly for me and I try to use > shortcut as much as possible. > Can you add a bugtracker entry for having some documentation/help menu? The problem with the shortcuts was that in itself, it was a bit lonly... but mayne a real help menu would make sense. Marcus _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Just a thought: if all available commands are accessible via a menu
(which they probably should be), and the menu indicates the shortcut key, then the GUI would be self-explanatory and we would not need a list of shortcuts. Adrian On Aug 4, 2009, at 17:41 , Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 01.08.2009, at 18:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> On Friday, July 31, 2009, Stéphane Ducasse >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> may be we should simply remove that item. >>> menu >>> system >>> keyboard shortcuts >> >> yes >> >> why? is there other way newbie and not so newbie people can see the >> list of shortcuts? Using the mouse is ugly for me and I try to use >> shortcut as much as possible. >> > > Can you add a bugtracker entry for having some documentation/help > menu? The problem with the shortcuts was that in itself, it > was a bit lonly... but mayne a real help menu would make sense. > > Marcus > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: Just a thought: if all available commands are accessible via a menu That's true, however, not all shortcut are accessible by a menu. As an example to tab (move right a tab space) a piece of code, you have to do ctrl + shift + r or ctrl + shift + l to left. Or to write a ifTrue: (forget about the ugly of ifTrue haha) you can do ctrl + shift + t .... etc.. and all of those things are useful to do with shortcuts but there aren't in any menu. cheers, Mariano
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It would be nice to check
keymapper keybinding package statuses because having a good keymapper is important for the future. Then may be using pragmas to tag methods with short cut would be a nice way to document the default keybdingin. Stef On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> > wrote: > Just a thought: if all available commands are accessible via a menu > (which they probably should be), and the menu indicates the shortcut > key, then the GUI would be self-explanatory and we would not need a > list of shortcuts. > > That's true, however, not all shortcut are accessible by a menu. As > an example to tab (move right a tab space) a piece of code, you have > to do ctrl + shift + r or ctrl + shift + l to left. Or to write a > ifTrue: (forget about the ugly of ifTrue haha) you can do ctrl + > shift + t .... etc.. and all of those things are useful to do with > shortcuts but there aren't in any menu. > > cheers, > Mariano > > > Adrian > > On Aug 4, 2009, at 17:41 , Marcus Denker wrote: > > > > > On 01.08.2009, at 18:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> > >> wrote: > >> On Friday, July 31, 2009, Stéphane Ducasse > >> <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> may be we should simply remove that item. > >>> menu > >>> system > >>> keyboard shortcuts > >> > >> yes > >> > >> why? is there other way newbie and not so newbie people can see the > >> list of shortcuts? Using the mouse is ugly for me and I try to use > >> shortcut as much as possible. > >> > > > > Can you add a bugtracker entry for having some documentation/help > > menu? The problem with the shortcuts was that in itself, it > > was a bit lonly... but mayne a real help menu would make sense. > > > > Marcus > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
Why you say it is lonely ? because it is wrong to be in "system" and should be under a new menu called "help" ?
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
The problem with the shortcuts was that in itself, it _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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