I play the newbie again
I'm interested in linux version I download stuff from http://www.pharo-project.org/download primary link: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz does not seem to integrate a ready-to-use squeak... (no plugin) it contains only a build directory with not much help to install (make does not work) alternative link: http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.10-4.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz does have a simple INSTALL, but: $ squeak pharo0.1-10268dev09.04.1.image This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (vers. 6504). Press CR to quit... Sorry to bother, but it's not usable Nicolas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier <[hidden email]> wrote: I play the newbie again This seems to have all plugins for me. I uncompress the tar.gz and have a "build" directory with lots of plugins. There is also the "squeak" executable. What plugin are you talking about ?
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2009/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>:
> > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I play the newbie again >> I'm interested in linux version >> I download stuff from http://www.pharo-project.org/download >> >> primary link: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz >> does not seem to integrate a ready-to-use squeak... (no plugin) >> it contains only a build directory with not much help to install (make >> does not work) > > > This seems to have all plugins for me. I uncompress the tar.gz and have a > "build" directory with lots of plugins. There is also the "squeak" > executable. > > What plugin are you talking about ? > OK, thanks, in between I tried to copy the whole build/ to /somewhere and executed /somewhere/build/squeak *.image and it works fine. Sorry, procedure was not clear to me compared to usual squeak distribution with INSTALL instructions. Especially, providing files like libtool Makefile and unusual XXXPlugin/XXX.lo instead of /usr/local/lib/squeak-3.10.Y/XXXPlugin is misleading. Nicolas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Hi nicolas
normally you should be able to use the default squeak with closure vm. expurery was there to help people test it. Sorry lot of us are on mac. Stef > 2009/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> I play the newbie again >>> I'm interested in linux version >>> I download stuff from http://www.pharo-project.org/download >>> >>> primary link: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz >>> does not seem to integrate a ready-to-use squeak... (no plugin) >>> it contains only a build directory with not much help to install >>> (make >>> does not work) >> >> >> This seems to have all plugins for me. I uncompress the tar.gz and >> have a >> "build" directory with lots of plugins. There is also the "squeak" >> executable. >> >> What plugin are you talking about ? >> > > OK, thanks, in between I tried to copy the whole build/ to /somewhere > and executed /somewhere/build/squeak *.image and it works fine. > Sorry, procedure was not clear to me compared to usual squeak > distribution with INSTALL instructions. > Especially, providing files like libtool Makefile and unusual > XXXPlugin/XXX.lo instead of /usr/local/lib/squeak-3.10.Y/XXXPlugin is > misleading. > > Nicolas > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier
<[hidden email]> wrote: > I play the newbie again > I'm interested in linux version > I download stuff from http://www.pharo-project.org/download > > primary link: http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz > does not seem to integrate a ready-to-use squeak... (no plugin) > it contains only a build directory with not much help to install (make > does not work) You are right. What about adding a README file and renaming build/ to squeak-0.15.1? The README could contain: This directory contains a pre-built squeak Virtual Machine (VM).To run it within your file manager (like Nautilus or Dolphin), associate the extension .image with the squeak executable. To run it through the command line: $ cd directory/with/the/image $ /path/to/squeak image_filename.image You can also add the squeak executable to your path: $ cd /usr/local/bin $ sudo ln -sf /path/to/squeak and then $ cd directory/with/the/image $ squeak image_filename.image What do you think? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 00:14 +0200, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> 2009/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > OK, thanks, in between I tried to copy the whole build/ to /somewhere > and executed /somewhere/build/squeak *.image and it works fine. > Sorry, procedure was not clear to me compared to usual squeak > distribution with INSTALL instructions. > Especially, providing files like libtool Makefile and unusual > XXXPlugin/XXX.lo instead of /usr/local/lib/squeak-3.10.Y/XXXPlugin is > misleading. It's true that the packaging procedure could do with some more work. When I originally started producing pre-packaged VMs for Exupery this is what people wanted. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Are you sure about the cd to get a local path to the image? I just give the full path to both the vm and image, and it seems to work.
Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Nicolas Cellier <[hidden email]> wrote: > I play the newbie again > I'm interested in linux version > I download stuff from http://www.pharo-project.org/download > > primary link: > http://ftp.squeak.org/Exupery/vms/exupery-vm-0.15.1-linux.tz > does not seem to integrate a ready-to-use squeak... (no plugin) it > contains only a build directory with not much help to install (make > does not work) You are right. What about adding a README file and renaming build/ to squeak-0.15.1? The README could contain: This directory contains a pre-built squeak Virtual Machine (VM).To run it within your file manager (like Nautilus or Dolphin), associate the extension .image with the squeak executable. To run it through the command line: $ cd directory/with/the/image $ /path/to/squeak image_filename.image You can also add the squeak executable to your path: $ cd /usr/local/bin $ sudo ln -sf /path/to/squeak and then $ cd directory/with/the/image $ squeak image_filename.image What do you think? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Are you sure about the cd to get a local path to the image? I just give the full path to both the vm and image, and it seems to work. do you get the directory package-cache in the image directory if you load things through monticello? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Damien,
I think so, but is there a specific test that would answer it for you? I'm happy to try it and report back, but I fear that I could miss something if left to my own devices to plan the test. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:59 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]> wrote: > Are you sure about the cd to get a local path to the image? I just give the full path to both the vm and image, and it seems to work. do you get the directory package-cache in the image directory if you load things through monticello? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Bryce Kampjes wrote:
> It's true that the packaging procedure could do with some more work. > When I originally started producing pre-packaged VMs for Exupery this is > what people wanted. so is this an exupery VM or a "normal" one? I just wrote a similar email like Nicolas, but then remembered this thread :-) Michael _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 14:41 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:
> Bryce Kampjes wrote: > > > It's true that the packaging procedure could do with some more work. > > When I originally started producing pre-packaged VMs for Exupery this is > > what people wanted. > > so is this an exupery VM or a "normal" one? > > I just wrote a similar email like Nicolas, but then remembered this > thread :-) Both. An Exupery VM is a normal VM with a few extra primitives and a few hooks to allow native code to be executed instead of interpreted code. If Exupery isn't used it's just a normal VM. For Windows there's more of a difference as I'm not maintaining the Windows Exupery VM to the same level as the Linux one. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Cheers, Henry On 24.04.2009 22:38, Bryce Kampjes wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 14:41 +0200, Michael Rueger wrote:Bryce Kampjes wrote:It's true that the packaging procedure could do with some more work. When I originally started producing pre-packaged VMs for Exupery this is what people wanted.so is this an exupery VM or a "normal" one? I just wrote a similar email like Nicolas, but then remembered this thread :-)Both. An Exupery VM is a normal VM with a few extra primitives and a few hooks to allow native code to be executed instead of interpreted code. If Exupery isn't used it's just a normal VM. For Windows there's more of a difference as I'm not maintaining the Windows Exupery VM to the same level as the Linux one. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 02:09 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
> Speaking of which, how's the work on making Exupery (the JIT, not the > VM :) ) compatible with a Closure VM going? I haven't yet started on making Exupery work with closures. I'm likely to do that after I finish the first stage of dynamic method inlining which is underway now. Progress will be slow as we've a 1 week old baby. Bryce _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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