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Davide Grandi-3

log4s status : proprietary or else

Hello,

looking for log4s on Instantiations site

https://www.google.com/search?q=log4s+site:.instantiations.com

I've found terms varying from "port of log4j", "based on ideas from ...
log4j" to "our participation in the open source community".
And, of course, the Visualage details on Programmer's Reference.

Then I've found log4s also on a Pharo catalog
     https://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/project/Log4s
and on a Gemstone page
     http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Overview

So I'm asking (or, better, querying : "ask to know") :
there's a log4s reference edition publicly available as open source ?
(or the "original one" - then adapted to pharo, Gemstone, and others ?)

Thank-you very much,

     Davide Grandi

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Wayne Johnston

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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Davide Grandi-3

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

Thank-you, and sorry for my convoluted english : I was asking : - for the license type (MIT, if I'm not wrong) - and for the sources : actual, ported, reference or whatever

Thank-you again,

Davide

On 11/07/2020 13:25, Wayne Johnston wrote:

https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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Seth Berman

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

Greetings Davide,

A port of Log4s was released under the MIT license to the opensource community in 2013.
I believe it was tested on Pharo 2 and landed in an opensource repo (Monticello based?)

I personally don't remember more details than that, Instantiations were not the maintainers

of the project within that repo...we just provided the initial port.

I would bet someone (perhaps here) on one of the other forums (Squeak/Pharo) may know

were it could be found.

Hope this helps

- Seth

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 10:15:38 AM UTC-4, Davide Grandi wrote:

Thank-you, and sorry for my convoluted english : I was asking : - for the license type (MIT, if I'm not wrong) - and for the sources : actual, ported, reference or whatever

Thank-you again,

Davide

On 11/07/2020 13:25, Wayne Johnston wrote:

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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Davide Grandi-3

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

Thank-you Seth, so I've already found it in squek & pharo repos. Thank-you very much for the clarification. Bye - ciao,

Davide Grandi

On 13/07/2020 22:17, 'Seth Berman' via VA Smalltalk wrote:

Greetings Davide,

A port of Log4s was released under the MIT license to the opensource community in 2013.
I believe it was tested on Pharo 2 and landed in an opensource repo (Monticello based?)

I personally don't remember more details than that, Instantiations were not the maintainers

of the project within that repo...we just provided the initial port.

I would bet someone (perhaps here) on one of the other forums (Squeak/Pharo) may know

were it could be found.

Hope this helps

- Seth
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 10:15:38 AM UTC-4, Davide Grandi wrote:
Thank-you, and sorry for my convoluted english : I was asking : - for the license type (MIT, if I'm not wrong) - and for the sources : actual, ported, reference or whatever

Thank-you again,

Davide

On 11/07/2020 13:25, Wayne Johnston wrote:

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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Richard Sargent

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

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Seth,

Can you provide a reasonably short summary of how Log4s compares to the VA logging framework?

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 1:17:03 PM UTC-7, Seth Berman wrote:

Greetings Davide,

A port of Log4s was released under the MIT license to the opensource community in 2013.
I believe it was tested on Pharo 2 and landed in an opensource repo (Monticello based?)
I personally don't remember more details than that, Instantiations were not the maintainers
of the project within that repo...we just provided the initial port.

I would bet someone (perhaps here) on one of the other forums (Squeak/Pharo) may know
were it could be found.

Hope this helps

- Seth
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 10:15:38 AM UTC-4, Davide Grandi wrote:
Thank-you, and sorry for my convoluted english : I was asking : - for the license type (MIT, if I'm not wrong) - and for the sources : actual, ported, reference or whatever

Thank-you again,

Davide

On 11/07/2020 13:25, Wayne Johnston wrote:

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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Seth Berman

Re: log4s status : proprietary or else

Hi Richard,

I'm assuming you mean the EsLoggingFramework and friends?
That is log4s. I'm sure there were some changes in the port to Pharo/Squeak that had to
be made for those environments, but other than that they should be similar (plus any mods we did since then).

- Seth

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, Richard Sargent wrote:

Seth,

Can you provide a reasonably short summary of how Log4s compares to the VA logging framework?

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 1:17:03 PM UTC-7, Seth Berman wrote:
Greetings Davide,

A port of Log4s was released under the MIT license to the opensource community in 2013.
I believe it was tested on Pharo 2 and landed in an opensource repo (Monticello based?)
I personally don't remember more details than that, Instantiations were not the maintainers
of the project within that repo...we just provided the initial port.

I would bet someone (perhaps here) on one of the other forums (Squeak/Pharo) may know
were it could be found.

Hope this helps

- Seth
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 10:15:38 AM UTC-4, Davide Grandi wrote:
Thank-you, and sorry for my convoluted english : I was asking : - for the license type (MIT, if I'm not wrong) - and for the sources : actual, ported, reference or whatever

Thank-you again,

Davide

On 11/07/2020 13:25, Wayne Johnston wrote:

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F922%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Flog4s.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGmb9uE45lN4wSFOJXg6HOGG1zTsQ';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/docs/922/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/log4s.html

Found by going to

<a href="https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocumentation.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFtEdrIV57_XhdBNtHALvLEHYyG2g';return true;">https://www.instantiations.com/support/documentation.html

and going to "All VA Smalltalk documents" and doing a Search. In the navigation pane on the left, you see this is the start of a chapter that you can dive into.

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