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marketing or not?

Stéphane Ducasse
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Lukas Renggli
Looks cool, except that they have to restart the server after a code-change :-)

Lukas

On 23 December 2010 08:32, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: marketing or not?

Chip Nowacek
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If it's not just marketing, what, in your view, might be the ramifications?
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Re: marketing or not?

Stéphane Ducasse
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what I want to say is that we could play the same game surfing in the hype of javascript.
People like jump into javascript like they did in Java and it would be good to take benefit of that.

Stef

On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Looks cool, except that they have to restart the server after a code-change :-)
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> On 23 December 2010 08:32, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> http://www.Ajax.org
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Re: marketing or not?

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Dec 23, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Chip Nowacek wrote:

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> If it's not just marketing, what, in your view, might be the ramifications?

Could we (people in this community) make business around that.
I mean lot of communitees are good at creating buzz and smalltalkers in general not that much.


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Re: marketing or not?

Stephen Taylor
The question it raises for me - I've always been tantalised by the
prospect of Smalltalk running on top of a popular and widespread
platform - Bistro, which brought Smalltalk to the JVM was an early attempt.

What I'd really like to see these days though is a Smalltalk environment
running on top of either JavaScript or Flash. It would probably be
pretty slow, but given that the thing I most want to do with computer is
write easily accessable casual games in a language I love, it would hit
a sweet spot for me.

Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project?




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Re: marketing or not?

Lukas Renggli
> What I'd really like to see these days though is a Smalltalk environment
> running on top of either JavaScript or Flash. It would probably be pretty
> slow, but given that the thing I most want to do with computer is write
> easily accessable casual games in a language I love, it would hit a sweet
> spot for me.
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> Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project?

Flash: http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-000d935fad1c
Javascript: http://clamato.net/

Lukas

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Re: marketing or not?

Stephen Taylor
Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> Is there anyone out there working on this sort of project?

> Flash: http://blogs.inextenso.com/seaside/blog/learning/795d945e-d6cf-11db-ace5-000d935fad1c

That's right - I'd forgotten about VistaScript. It looked good for a
while and then it completely disappeared off the face of the web. So
completely that I wondered if the author got bought out, rather than
just gave up.

Does anyone know what happened to it?

> Javascript: http://clamato.net/

Ah - it must be Christmas! Thanks.

> Lukas



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Re: marketing or not?

Chip Nowacek
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Peter Fisk's stuff is looking pretty cool: silversmalltalk.wordpress.com and www.silversmalltalk.com. I haven't been able to get it to work in Linux yet. It seems Peter is headed for larger markets - good news for Smalltalk.
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Re: marketing or not?

Geert Claes
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A browser based Smalltalk IDE (for web-apps) is absolutely the way to go and Smalltalk is ideal for it too!
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Re: marketing or not?

Stéphane Ducasse
> A browser based Smalltalk IDE (for web-apps) is absolutely the way to go and
> Smalltalk is ideal for it too!

Not necessarily but indeed this would be good to have so that we can have a micro kernel without ui.



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Re: marketing or not?

Richard Durr-2
The debug systems looks really interesting. maybe someone can copy it for clamato

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> A browser based Smalltalk IDE (for web-apps) is absolutely the way to go and
> Smalltalk is ideal for it too!

Not necessarily but indeed this would be good to have so that we can have a micro kernel without ui.




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Re: marketing or not?

csrabak
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Chip,

Your last assertion made me curious: is there something as Silverlight for Linux?

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Em 25/12/2010 01:32, Chip Nowacek < [hidden email] > escreveu:

Peter Fisk's stuff is looking pretty cool: silversmalltalk.wordpress.com and
www.silversmalltalk.com. I haven't been able to get it to work in Linux yet.
It seems Peter is headed for larger markets - good news for Smalltalk.
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Re: marketing or not?

Joachim Geidel
Cesar,

Am 26.12.10 17:50 schrieb [hidden email]:
> Your last assertion made me curious: is there something as Silverlight for
> Linux?

Yes, it's called Moonlight: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight

Joachim Geidel



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Re: marketing or not?

Igor Stasenko
On 26 December 2010 18:05, Joachim Geidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Cesar,
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> Am 26.12.10 17:50 schrieb [hidden email]:
>> Your last assertion made me curious: is there something as Silverlight for
>> Linux?
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> Yes, it's called Moonlight: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
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yeaghln... arghhh;.. moarrs...
(sorry, the email can't transmit emotions)

> Joachim Geidel
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Re: marketing or not?

Chip Nowacek
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http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
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Re: marketing or not?

Chip Nowacek
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Why such pain? Is it over Moonlight? A plug-in-based Smalltalk?
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Re: marketing or not?

Igor Stasenko
On 27 December 2010 14:12, Chip Nowacek <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Why such pain? Is it over Moonlight? A plug-in-based Smalltalk?

no its because of silverlight :)

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