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Wednesday seems perfect for everybody and then we can have a drink all together; sounds good :-) See you at Esug 2016-08-18 12:27 GMT+02:00 stepharo <[hidden email]>: I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. Guillaume Larcheveque
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Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: > > This is cool. > > So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >> >> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >> >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>> Doru >>> >>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>> >>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>> >>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> www.feenk.com >>>> >>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Problem solving should be focused on describing > the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. See you in Prague. Anne > Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Good! > > Stephan > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > >> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >> >> This is cool. >> >> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>> >>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>> >>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>> >>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Anne,
I would prefer to have a conversation, rather than presentations. Would it be possible to send the slides here so that we can look at them beforehand? Cheers, Doru > On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. > > See you in Prague. > > Anne >> Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : >> >> Good! >> >> Stephan >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >> >>> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> This is cool. >>> >>> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>>> >>>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>>> >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>>> >>>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >>> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Cheers, Anne > Le 22 août 2016 à 15:21, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Hi Anne, > > I would prefer to have a conversation, rather than presentations. > > Would it be possible to send the slides here so that we can look at them beforehand? > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. >> >> See you in Prague. >> >> Anne >>> Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>> >>> Good! >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>> >>>> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> This is cool. >>>> >>>> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>>>> >>>>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> www.feenk.com >>>> >>>> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >>>> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On 22/08/16 20:32, Anne Etien wrote: Thanks Anne. A good list. Here are some more:Please find them attached. Cheers, Anne Name resolving is something we now do custom for each language. Some more generic tooling for that might be worthwhile too. Support for systems consisting of
multiple languages would be
helpful. Systems using SQL stored procedures and another language, or XML configuration files are very common. I also tend to need to model connected artifacts: JIRA tickets, requirements, releases. "20mn are currently needed to load a 1 million elements model. " 20 million what? The inheritance depth and #instVars in current FAMIX are problematic indeed. It is much too easy to run out of memory. The storage of calculated measurements also needs changes: mostly I calculate the same measurements for all (or a group of) methods/classes/units. Storing them in a dictionary for each instance is very wasteful. Cheers, Stephan _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Tx Stefan I asked cyril to compile his own list too. What would be good is to share such models (and importers).
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In Delphi parsing we noted a hierarchical/DAG storage might be useful, with queries merging search results.
That would make it possible to do (partially) parallel import of multiple files, and perhaps even have multi-image models > Op 22 aug. 2016 om 22:07 heeft stepharo <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: > >> I also tend to need to model connected artifacts: JIRA tickets, >> requirements, releases. > What would be good is to share such models (and importers). Indeed. At the moment they are mostly based on csv imports, sometimes an island parser. It would be good to actually use the API instead Stephan _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thanks Anne for these slides. They are indeed good starting point for discussions
Alexandre > On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Please find them attached. > Cheers, > Anne > <MooseADT.pdf> >> Le 22 août 2016 à 15:21, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> a écrit : >> >> Hi Anne, >> >> I would prefer to have a conversation, rather than presentations. >> >> Would it be possible to send the slides here so that we can look at them beforehand? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. >>> >>> See you in Prague. >>> >>> Anne >>>> Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>>> >>>> Good! >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>>> >>>>> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >>>>> >>>>> This is cool. >>>>> >>>>> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>>>>> >>>>>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>>>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>>>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>> >>>>> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >>>>> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thanks, Anne. I also think it is interesting to look at the meta-model and meta-meta-model. I have some ideas as well, but I am curious to hear your concerns in more details. We definitely need more modular possibilities and a smaller footprint. One constraint that is important is to keep the mapping to the Pharo objects as straightforward as possible. We currently have a 1-to-1 mapping, and this is important to preserve. Another issue to keep into consideration if we modify the meta-meta-model is to provide a compatible solution for Java (and possibly other languages). In the meantime, here a list of some of my issues: - More importers, ideally for JS, .Net and C/C++ - Visual editors for manipulating meta-description (there is a start in the inspector now) - Integration of the SmaCC ASTs in the tools - PetitParser review - Duplication detector Cheers, Doru > On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Please find them attached. > Cheers, > Anne > <MooseADT.pdf> >> Le 22 août 2016 à 15:21, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> a écrit : >> >> Hi Anne, >> >> I would prefer to have a conversation, rather than presentations. >> >> Would it be possible to send the slides here so that we can look at them beforehand? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. >>> >>> See you in Prague. >>> >>> Anne >>>> Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>>> >>>> Good! >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>>> >>>>> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >>>>> >>>>> This is cool. >>>>> >>>>> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>>>>> >>>>>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>>>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>>>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>> >>>>> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >>>>> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 24 août 2016 à 02:51, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> a écrit : > > Hi, > > Thanks, Anne. > > I also think it is interesting to look at the meta-model and meta-meta-model. I have some ideas as well, but I am curious to hear your concerns in more details. We definitely need more modular possibilities and a smaller footprint. > > One constraint that is important is to keep the mapping to the Pharo objects as straightforward as possible. We currently have a 1-to-1 mapping, and this is important to preserve. > > Another issue to keep into consideration if we modify the meta-meta-model is to provide a compatible solution for Java (and possibly other languages). > > In the meantime, here a list of some of my issues: > - More importers, ideally for JS, .Net and C/C++ There is a VDM parser from Tomo who is at ESUG conference. > - Visual editors for manipulating meta-description (there is a start in the inspector now) > - Integration of the SmaCC ASTs in the tools > - PetitParser review > - Duplication detector > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Please find them attached. >> Cheers, >> Anne >> <MooseADT.pdf> >>> Le 22 août 2016 à 15:21, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Anne, >>> >>> I would prefer to have a conversation, rather than presentations. >>> >>> Would it be possible to send the slides here so that we can look at them beforehand? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Anne Etien <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Since we get a two year engineer position to enhance the heart (FAMIX and FAME) of Moose, I prepared some slides. So it could be good if we can have access to a video projector. >>>> >>>> See you in Prague. >>>> >>>> Anne >>>>> Le 18 août 2016 à 14:59, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Good! >>>>> >>>>> Stephan >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> Op 18 aug. 2016 om 13:04 heeft Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is cool. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, we make it on Wednesday at 16:30 then. It’s even better to have it on a day with a shorter program. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 12:27 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked with the local organiser: the social event per se starts at 19h. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so we have time for the moose meeting before. I would like to have the synectique people at this meeting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 18/8/16 à 11:10, stepharo a écrit : >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know that I should not say it :) I do not know exactly when the social event starts but it will not start >>>>>>>> at 16h30. I think that I should change the schedule to mark free time then social event. >>>>>>>> I will ask the local organiser to tell me the exact dates. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I suggest that we can do it at 16h30 wednesday >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 17/8/16 à 18:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We can move it, but Wednesday we have the social event. We could do it Thursday at 6:30 pm. Or we can do two :). What do people say? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:35 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> guillaume and philippe from synectique are arriving late the tuesday. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Could we move the meeting the wednesday afternoon? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/8/16 à 09:30, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to have a meeting with the people that are interested in Moose and are present at ESUG. I propose to have it on Tuesday, at 6:30. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone else be interested? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> www.feenk.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >>>>>> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
for the slides, I think we can use one of the room we have. I’m gonna ask to Gabriela if it is possible to use one of the two rooms after 4 pm for the discussion (the hall is way too hot to meet there =))
Is it ok for you?
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Brice Govin
PhD student in RMoD research team at INRIA Lille Software Engineer at THALES AIR SYSTEMS Rungis ENSTA-Bretagne ENSI2014 22 Avenue du General Leclerc 92340 BOURG-LA-REINE
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