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I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. Any comment? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing?
Did you try with 4.8? Doru On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi! > > I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. > Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. > > Any comment? > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Alex,
can you collect a bit more data? like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. Cheers, Esteban On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? > > Did you try with 4.8? > > Doru > > > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >> >> Any comment? >> >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears.
It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib. Alexandre On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > can you collect a bit more data? > like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. > > also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. > > Cheers, > Esteban > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? >> >> Did you try with 4.8? >> >> Doru >> >> >> >> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >>> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >>> >>> Any comment? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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no data = no fix.
Simple. We are not magician just software engineers. Stef On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. > It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup > > This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib. > > Alexandre > > On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> can you collect a bit more data? >> like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. >> >> also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? >>> >>> Did you try with 4.8? >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >>>> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >>>> >>>> Any comment? >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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yes... I need at least a reproducible case :)
Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error. Cheers, Esteban On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > no data = no fix. > Simple. > We are not magician just software engineers. > > Stef > > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. >> It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup >> >> This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib. >> >> Alexandre >> >> On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> can you collect a bit more data? >>> like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. >>> >>> also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? >>>> >>>> Did you try with 4.8? >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >>>>> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >>>>> >>>>> Any comment? >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I will produce a repeatable scenario. This bug is a critical one. Giving this lecture on Pharo and Moose next semester depends on it actually
Alexandre Le 7 avr. 2013 à 11:34, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> a écrit : > yes... I need at least a reproducible case :) > Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error. > > Cheers, > Esteban > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> no data = no fix. >> Simple. >> We are not magician just software engineers. >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. >>> It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup >>> >>> This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> can you collect a bit more data? >>>> like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. >>>> >>>> also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? >>>>> >>>>> Did you try with 4.8? >>>>> >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >>>>>> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any comment? >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Please use Moose 4.8 instead of 4.7. The VM has significantly improved.
Cheers, Doru On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > I will produce a repeatable scenario. This bug is a critical one. Giving this lecture on Pharo and Moose next semester depends on it actually > > Alexandre > > > > Le 7 avr. 2013 à 11:34, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> a écrit : > >> yes... I need at least a reproducible case :) >> Like an image, a vm, and a list of actions to get the error. >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> On Apr 7, 2013, at 4:47 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> no data = no fix. >>> Simple. >>> We are not magician just software engineers. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> There is unfortunately no data to provide. The vm apparently suddenly crashes. No debugger, no error message. The moose window disappears. >>>> It's happens when a buggy Mondrian or Roassal view is drawn. The use of regular expression matching favor the problem to happen: view shape rectangle if: [ :pak | 'EyeSee*' match: pak name ] borderColor: Color red. view nodes: packageGroup >>>> >>>> This happens essentially on Ubuntu. I have seen this problem on many different machines, always with this Linux distrib. >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 5 Apr 2013, at 03:22, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>> can you collect a bit more data? >>>>> like the stack trace leading to crash and the dmp file is available. >>>>> >>>>> also... it should be printing something in the command line... that data would be good too. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Esteban >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I never tries with Ubuntu. Did you get any dump? Did you get any debug log? Or was it just crashing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you try with 4.8? >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am just back from teaching smalltalk and Moose. Many of the students are experiencing sudden crashes using Moose 4.7. >>>>>>> Apparently using regular expression on Moose 4.7 may lead to this crash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any comment? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Any comment? on Ubuntu you can try the latest deb files I produced: https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/pharo -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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