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I put together a new webpage at: http://moosetechnology.org The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, but until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... different, including the logo. Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report problems if you see any. Cheers, Doru "Every thing has its own flow"
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Beautiful, as usual !
On 13 Sep 2014, at 16:41, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I put together a new webpage at: > http://moosetechnology.org > > The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, but until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... different, including the logo. > > Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report problems if you see any. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Dear Doru,
This is excellent! This is a major step forward! Thanks! Cheers, Alexandre On Sep 13, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I put together a new webpage at: > http://moosetechnology.org > > The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, but until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... different, including the logo. > > Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report problems if you see any. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Very nice. Thank you. usman On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
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+1
Welcome to the new logo :) On 14/9/14 10:12, Usman Bhatti wrote:
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Great logo, great web site design. Apparently you use bootstrap ?
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I put together a new webpage at: > http://moosetechnology.org > > The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put > together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, but > until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... > different, including the logo. > > Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report > problems if you see any. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thanks. Yes, it is based on bootstrap. In the meantime, I also added a navigation bar to provide more context. Doru On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: Great logo, great web site design. Apparently you use bootstrap ? "Every thing has its own flow"
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Congrats. Really nice,
Showing the old site to other newbies was becoming difficult and, of course, starting from there was difficult to show anything else, so Agile Visualization become my "thing to show" when I was trying to introduce Moose to other newbies. On the constructive critic side, Is frustrating being unable to solve the persistence issues that I have reported on Pharo mailing list after some pointers and trying them with not much understanding of the concepts and finding than that thread became frozen. I know that community is very helpful and proactive and that people have lives and other things to do besides helping newbies, but monologize on my own attempts to solve the issue, despite of being useful has limits... So, bitter-sweet feelings, nice to have Moose and its new site, but difficult to get some learning further, despite of my newbie erratic but insistent attempts... Offray On 09/13/2014 09:41 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I put together a new webpage at: > http://moosetechnology.org > > The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put together a > static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, but until then we > need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... different, including the logo. > > Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report > problems if you see any. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Offray, I sent this info before, but I am not sure you got it. In order to understand the concepts of Glamour, you should read the dedicated chapter from the Moose Book: I do not have time to get your code to work right now, but the workaround example I sent earlier should just work once you understand how transmissions work. In the meantime, I will try to add support for the triggering of custom actions when ports change more prominently. Please feel free to ask more detailed questions. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: Congrats. Really nice, "Every thing has its own flow"
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Hi Tudor,
On 09/14/2014 01:51 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Offray, > > I sent this info before, but I am not sure you got it. In order to understand > the concepts of Glamour, you should read the dedicated chapter from the Moose Book: > http://www.themoosebook.org/book/internals/glamour/ > > I do not have time to get your code to work right now, but the workaround > example I sent earlier should just work once you understand how transmissions work. Yes In fact I got it, and follow your example and send a several updates and questions[1][2][3] about my attempts to implement your suggestion [1] http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2014-September/013423.html [2] http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2014-September/013474.html [3] http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2014-September/013553.html The main conceptual issue I have is that most of the examples I see on the Deep into Pharo and Moose Books on custom browsers are mapping the flow of information in transmissions in one sense from general to particular: packages to classes -> to protocols -> to methods -> to code editor, but, in my case what I want is to make a two ways communication: from nodes tree to node content and back, so once you have selected a particular node in the tree, the content of the node is shown and once you change the text of that content in this is updated (automatically or explicitly of the first is not possible) in the nodes tree. Sending message to outside seems the way to do it, but I don't know how to send a message that captures all the text in a pane and, as I said in the follow ups of your suggestion a direct implementation of them gets the two panes (nodes tree and node content) disconnected. Is a general explanation of the issue (details are in the referred messages) but I think than that's the core issue of what I'm trying to do. As I said there, I would love to write the article about this experience on the software itself (I'm calling it Software Selfies :-P), but I hit a wall about this conceptual issue. > In the meantime, I will try to add support for the triggering of custom actions > when ports change more prominently. Please feel free to ask more detailed questions. Thanks. That are my details until now. Would be nice to have some kind of updateOn message that connects ports on specific events (text pane gets updated, node gets moved or something like that). > Cheers, > Doru > Cheers, Offray _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Tudor, This is incorrect. Transmissions handle any data between any ports. but, in my case what I want is to make a two ways communication: from nodes tree to node content and back, so once you have selected a particular node in the tree, the content of the node is shown and once you change the text of that content in this is updated (automatically or explicitly of the first is not possible) in the nodes tree. Sending message to outside seems the way to do it, but I don't know how to send a message that captures all the text in a pane and, as I said in the follow ups of your suggestion a direct implementation of them gets the two panes (nodes tree and node content) disconnected. You do not send messages. You send data from one port to another, and presentations react to the changes of port values from the panes in which they reside. The outside port is just another port in the surrounding pane. You can choose any port for any pane you want. Is a general explanation of the issue (details are in the referred messages) but I think than that's the core issue of what I'm trying to do. As I said there, I would love to write the article about this experience on the software itself (I'm calling it Software Selfies :-P), but I hit a wall about this conceptual issue. For text being updated, you have this. The port is called #text. Here is an updated example of how to store the text as it is being written by using the block of a transmission: objectStoringTheText := ''. tabulator := GLMTabulator new. tabulator column: #pane. tabulator transmit to: #pane; andShow: [ :a | a text ]. tabulator transmit from: #pane port: #text; to: #pane port: #portIDoNotCareAbout; transformed: [ :textComingFromThePresentation | objectStoringTheText := textComingFromThePresentation ]. tabulator openOn: text In this case, objectStoringTheText is the object with which you can do what you want. In this case, in the transformed: block, I simply store the text in it as an example. To test this example, just execute the code in a Moose image, then type something, and then inspect objectStoringTheText. You will see that it has the text that you typed. Is this clearer now? Cheers, Doru Cheers, "Every thing has its own flow"
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Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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One japanese guy on Twitter reminded me that the new MOOSE logo is not
too far from the Magma one :-) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(groupe)#mediaviewer/File:Symbole_de_Magma.jpg Magma was a progressive french rock band in the seventies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band) On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Looks very slick! I like the logo as well. :-) > > On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks. Yes, it is based on bootstrap. > > In the meantime, I also added a navigation bar to provide more context. > > Doru > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Serge Stinckwich > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Great logo, great web site design. Apparently you use bootstrap ? >> >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I put together a new webpage at: >> > http://moosetechnology.org >> > >> > The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put >> > together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, >> > but >> > until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... >> > different, including the logo. >> > >> > Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report >> > problems if you see any. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Doru >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Every thing has its own flow" >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Moose-dev mailing list >> > [hidden email] >> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Still it’s closer to rebels insignia http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Insignia-Black-Rub-On-Sticker/dp/B00206Q8P8
> On 15 Sep 2014, at 16:00, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > > One japanese guy on Twitter reminded me that the new MOOSE logo is not > too far from the Magma one :-) > > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(groupe)#mediaviewer/File:Symbole_de_Magma.jpg > > Magma was a progressive french rock band in the seventies: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band) > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Looks very slick! I like the logo as well. :-) >> >> On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Thanks. Yes, it is based on bootstrap. >> >> In the meantime, I also added a navigation bar to provide more context. >> >> Doru >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Serge Stinckwich >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Great logo, great web site design. Apparently you use bootstrap ? >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I put together a new webpage at: >>>> http://moosetechnology.org >>>> >>>> The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put >>>> together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, >>>> but >>>> until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... >>>> different, including the logo. >>>> >>>> Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report >>>> problems if you see any. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Excellent ;-)
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote: > Still it’s closer to rebels insignia http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Insignia-Black-Rub-On-Sticker/dp/B00206Q8P8 > >> On 15 Sep 2014, at 16:00, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> One japanese guy on Twitter reminded me that the new MOOSE logo is not >> too far from the Magma one :-) >> >> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(groupe)#mediaviewer/File:Symbole_de_Magma.jpg >> >> Magma was a progressive french rock band in the seventies: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Looks very slick! I like the logo as well. :-) >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. Yes, it is based on bootstrap. >>> >>> In the meantime, I also added a navigation bar to provide more context. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Serge Stinckwich >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Great logo, great web site design. Apparently you use bootstrap ? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I put together a new webpage at: >>>>> http://moosetechnology.org >>>>> >>>>> The old webpage got unstable and unmaintainable, so I decided to put >>>>> together a static webpage for now. One goal would be to move to Marina, >>>>> but >>>>> until then we need a web presence. As you can see, the look is ... >>>>> different, including the logo. >>>>> >>>>> Please take a look and let me know what you think, and of course, report >>>>> problems if you see any. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >>> >>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >>> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi All, The new site looks good! The install button bellow the logo is a bit awkward, but I see also its qualities. Cheers, M. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: Excellent ;-) _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Thanks. What do you mean by awkward? Doru On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Mircea Filip Lungu <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Every thing has its own flow"
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Argh. I apologize, I didn't say what I meant: - the positioning of the install button *above* the menu is unusual Cheers, M. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
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To some extent, it is, but then so is placing anything on top or to the lest of the menu bar is. But, is it confusing? Doru On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Mircea Filip Lungu <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Every thing has its own flow"
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What I don’t like is that it jumps to the top when you scroll to download button. I’d make it stick to top when you scroll to it. SO it won’t jump :)
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