multiple native windows

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>
>>
>>> Would it be ok if this was configurable via a user preference,
>>> meaning pharo supported both?
>>
>> sure.
>>
>>> A VisualWorks multiple-native-window capability would open up the
>>> possibility of creating a different class of applications.  Alot of
>>> my work revolves around integration with legacy systems.   Having a
>>> smalltalk with multiple native windows would allow me to more
>>> seamlessly introduce it into the world of tools at my company.
>>
>> I really think that if somebody would work on ffenestria we would
>> integrate it.
>>
>
> Do you remember, i started it. Still i don't released anything. But
> the idea is to move all windowing code into a new plugin , which will
> have an inherent support of controlling native windows (& events) from
> image side.
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> sw
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I used Visualworks and Squeak, and frankly, I prefer to have  
>>> embedded
>>> morphic windows in a unique native window, as it is now in Pharo.
>>> Application switching is easier in my opinion and I do not feel a  
>>> need
>>> to have an email clients between two code browsers.
>>> As the discussion on save and quit testified, people have radically
>>> different habits when programming. Even for simple things.
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Jun 2009, at 10:58, Steve Wirts wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the primitives existed in pharo that would allow someone to
>>>> create and control native windows, I would be more than happy to
>>>> take the time to try and massage morphic into working cleanly/
>>>> elegantly with multiple windows.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Rueger<[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Also the GTK bindings and Newspeak use native windows (I
>>>>> think?).
>>>>
>>>> Newspeak uses either native or morphic windows, depending on the
>>>> wishes of the user.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Damien Cassou
>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>>>>
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>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry
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> Stef
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>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Would it be ok if this was configurable via a user preference,
>>>> meaning pharo supported both?
>>>
>>> sure.
>>>
>>>> A VisualWorks multiple-native-window capability would open up the
>>>> possibility of creating a different class of applications.  Alot of
>>>> my work revolves around integration with legacy systems.   Having a
>>>> smalltalk with multiple native windows would allow me to more
>>>> seamlessly introduce it into the world of tools at my company.
>>>
>>> I really think that if somebody would work on ffenestria we would
>>> integrate it.
>>>
>>
>> Do you remember, i started it. Still i don't released anything. But
>> the idea is to move all windowing code into a new plugin , which will
>> have an inherent support of controlling native windows (& events) from
>> image side.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> sw
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I used Visualworks and Squeak, and frankly, I prefer to have
>>>> embedded
>>>> morphic windows in a unique native window, as it is now in Pharo.
>>>> Application switching is easier in my opinion and I do not feel a
>>>> need
>>>> to have an email clients between two code browsers.
>>>> As the discussion on save and quit testified, people have radically
>>>> different habits when programming. Even for simple things.
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 Jun 2009, at 10:58, Steve Wirts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the primitives existed in pharo that would allow someone to
>>>>> create and control native windows, I would be more than happy to
>>>>> take the time to try and massage morphic into working cleanly/
>>>>> elegantly with multiple windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Michael Rueger<[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Also the GTK bindings and Newspeak use native windows (I
>>>>>> think?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Newspeak uses either native or morphic windows, depending on the
>>>>> wishes of the user.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Damien Cassou
>>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them
>>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry
>>>>>
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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