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A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
Macintel).

Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)

Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
at [hidden email])

Jay

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Re: music remixer

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Jay Hardesty wrote:

> A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
> is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
> Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
> eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
> for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
> Macintel).
>
> Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
> some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
> and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
> a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
> importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)
>
> Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
> at [hidden email])
>  
sounds great. I'd like to see how it works.
It seems to be real slow to render the page. Then, when it finally
renders, and I push anything in the Qtone remixer, I get a
"Could not connect to remote server"

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Should hopefully be working again now - just got
home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
get confused easily).

Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
let me know if it continues not to work for you

THanks,
Jay


On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>> A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
>> is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
>> Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
>> eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
>> for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
>> Macintel).
>>
>> Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
>> some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
>> and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
>> a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
>> importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)
>>
>> Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
>> at [hidden email])
>>
> sounds great. I'd like to see how it works.
> It seems to be real slow to render the page. Then, when it finally
> renders, and I push anything in the Qtone remixer, I get a
> "Could not connect to remote server"
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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Jay Hardesty wrote:
> Should hopefully be working again now - just got
> home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
> unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
> app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
> get confused easily).
>
> Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
> let me know if it continues not to work for you
It now allows me to go to the qtone page. thanks
Seems to fill in notes when I select random (etc) according to the
instructions below.
However, I don't see a transport to play. A tune name does get created
under the notes, but no transport is present.

I'm on linux, FC5 and I tried it with both Firefox and Opera 9

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OK think the problem was I had "localhost" instead of the
proper address below.

        html tableRowWith: [
                html
                        attributeAt: 'src' put: 'http://68.175.105.240:9090/export/',  
fileName;
                        attributeAt: 'width' put: 256;
                        attributeAt: 'height' put: 20;
                        attributeAt: 'controls' put: 'true';
                        attributeAt: 'cache' put: 'false';
                        attributeAt: 'autostart' put: (fileName = 'blank.mid') not asString;
                        attributeAt: 'loop' put: 'true';
                        tag: 'embed']

Now I expect the transport should appear...?


In any case here are the midi files you produced, in case interested:



On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>> Should hopefully be working again now - just got
>> home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
>> unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
>> app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
>> get confused easily).
>>
>> Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
>> let me know if it continues not to work for you
> It now allows me to go to the qtone page. thanks
> Seems to fill in notes when I select random (etc) according to the
> instructions below.
> However, I don't see a transport to play. A tune name does get created
> under the notes, but no transport is present.
>
> I'm on linux, FC5 and I tried it with both Firefox and Opera 9
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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eminemBond-C.mid (1K) Download Attachment
empers-E.mid (3K) Download Attachment
voicely-A.mid (3K) Download Attachment
bond-D.mid (1K) Download Attachment
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Jay Hardesty wrote:

>
> OK think the problem was I had "localhost" instead of the
> proper address below.
>
>     html tableRowWith: [
>         html
>             attributeAt: 'src' put:
> 'http://68.175.105.240:9090/export/', fileName;
>             attributeAt: 'width' put: 256;
>             attributeAt: 'height' put: 20;
>             attributeAt: 'controls' put: 'true';
>             attributeAt: 'cache' put: 'false';
>             attributeAt: 'autostart' put: (fileName = 'blank.mid') not
> asString;
>             attributeAt: 'loop' put: 'true';
>             tag: 'embed']
>
> Now I expect the transport should appear...?
on opera, It didn't for me. I went back to the main page and then linked
thru.

On firefox, the frame of the transport appeared, but then Firefox
complained that it didn't find a suitable plugin.

(Seems unfortunate that you resort to specifying the exact ip address.)
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jayh

Of course, one *little* detail I forgot to mention - the
app returns its results in the form of a MIDI file, not
an MP3 (at the moment), and so your browser must
have some plugin for handling MIDI - on Mac and
Windows it's Quicktime - not sure what what the
standard is for Linux, though http://www.alsa-project.org/
seems to be a good resource.

Jay


On Sep 22, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>>
>> OK think the problem was I had "localhost" instead of the
>> proper address below.
>>
>>     html tableRowWith: [
>>         html
>>             attributeAt: 'src' put:
>> 'http://68.175.105.240:9090/export/', fileName;
>>             attributeAt: 'width' put: 256;
>>             attributeAt: 'height' put: 20;
>>             attributeAt: 'controls' put: 'true';
>>             attributeAt: 'cache' put: 'false';
>>             attributeAt: 'autostart' put: (fileName = 'blank.mid')  
>> not
>> asString;
>>             attributeAt: 'loop' put: 'true';
>>             tag: 'embed']
>>
>> Now I expect the transport should appear...?
> on opera, It didn't for me. I went back to the main page and then  
> linked
> thru.
>
> On firefox, the frame of the transport appeared, but then Firefox
> complained that it didn't find a suitable plugin.
>
> (Seems unfortunate that you resort to specifying the exact ip  
> address.)
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hi jay,

great, thx, works great for me.
instead of listening to online radio
while coding,
i now listen to my own mix ;-)

cheers, reinhard



Jay Hardesty schrieb:

> Should hopefully be working again now - just got
> home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
> unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
> app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
> get confused easily).
>
> Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
> let me know if it continues not to work for you
>
> THanks,
> Jay
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:
>
>> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>>> A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
>>> is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
>>> Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
>>> eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
>>> for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
>>> Macintel).
>>>
>>> Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
>>> some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
>>> and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
>>> a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
>>> importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)
>>>
>>> Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
>>> at [hidden email])
>>>
>> sounds great. I'd like to see how it works.
>> It seems to be real slow to render the page. Then, when it finally
>> renders, and I push anything in the Qtone remixer, I get a
>> "Could not connect to remote server"
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>
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Reinhard Handl
forgot to mention: win xp and firefox 1.5.0.7

cheers



Reinhard Handl schrieb:

> hi jay,
>
> great, thx, works great for me.
> instead of listening to online radio
> while coding,
> i now listen to my own mix ;-)
>
> cheers, reinhard
>
>
>
> Jay Hardesty schrieb:
>> Should hopefully be working again now - just got
>> home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
>> unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
>> app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
>> get confused easily).
>>
>> Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
>> let me know if it continues not to work for you
>>
>> THanks,
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>>>> A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
>>>> is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
>>>> Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
>>>> eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
>>>> for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
>>>> Macintel).
>>>>
>>>> Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
>>>> some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
>>>> and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
>>>> a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
>>>> importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
>>>> at [hidden email])
>>>>
>>> sounds great. I'd like to see how it works.
>>> It seems to be real slow to render the page. Then, when it finally
>>> renders, and I push anything in the Qtone remixer, I get a
>>> "Could not connect to remote server"
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Seaside mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>>
>
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jayh

Thanks very much for the encouraging comments.
The app seems to be working tolerably well, being
my first attempt at implementing/hosting a multi-user
web app - anyway over a hundred songs seem
to have been cranked out in the past day.

Still need to work out why http requests
occasionally never get a response - sometimes even
for simple calculations. Apparently I still have some
things to learn about the proper handling of requests
in different situations.

Seaside is amazing - never would have even tried
getting this app online otherwise, given my very
fragmentary knowledge of networking issues.
As an exercise I did a much simpler interface in Java
to run the app on a cellphone, and that programming
was much more painful than getting this more
complicated web version up in Seaside.

Thanks to everyone who tries the app, and for any
feedback.
Jay

On Sep 23, 2006, at 4:30 AM, Reinhard Handl wrote:

> forgot to mention: win xp and firefox 1.5.0.7
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> Reinhard Handl schrieb:
>> hi jay,
>>
>> great, thx, works great for me.
>> instead of listening to online radio
>> while coding,
>> i now listen to my own mix ;-)
>>
>> cheers, reinhard
>>
>>
>>
>> Jay Hardesty schrieb:
>>> Should hopefully be working again now - just got
>>> home and restarted it.  I imagine it'll be pretty
>>> unreliable until I work out the kinks  (the underlying
>>> app is solid, but my Seaside connection seems to
>>> get confused easily).
>>>
>>> Thanks for being brave enough to try it out -
>>> let me know if it continues not to work for you
>>>
>>> THanks,
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jay Hardesty wrote:
>>>>> A Squeak-based music remixer with a Seaside web GUI,
>>>>> is (intermittently) online at: http://tone23.org/qtone.
>>>>> Will hopefully be incorporated into a commercial site
>>>>> eventually, but for now this (alpha) version is there
>>>>> for the curious, running on my home machine (a 4-processor
>>>>> Macintel).
>>>>>
>>>>> Aesthetically it's real simple (visually) so far, with
>>>>> some evident hacks owing to my limited experience with html
>>>>> and web apps. This was essentially an exercise at duplicating
>>>>> a desktop-based (Morphic) app in Seaside. (No facility for
>>>>> importing MIDI/audio files yet - only preset choices)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, questions and comments welcome (can also reach me
>>>>> at [hidden email])
>>>>>
>>>> sounds great. I'd like to see how it works.
>>>> It seems to be real slow to render the page. Then, when it finally
>>>> renders, and I push anything in the Qtone remixer, I get a
>>>> "Could not connect to remote server"
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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